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post #31 of 93 Old 08-21-2012, 06:04 PM Thread Starter
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What would be the BEST filter and heater for the 36 Gallon?
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post #32 of 93 Old 08-21-2012, 07:01 PM
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Actually it was the Phosphate i though was the PH....duh....I will check it again tomorrow.
Going to Fish World in Minneapolis tomorrow(can't wait)Just to look at what i can buy when my tank is ready:)
I'm going to get my tank tomorrow...I have the Nutrifin Tap water Conditioner,Nutrifin Cycle and Safe Start to start my new Aquarium.Is this all i need?How long do i need to run it before i add new fish?
If you can get some plants too, especially floating, and with the SafeStart, you set the tank up and put in the first few fish. The plants grab the ammonia and the SafeStart seeds the bac teria to get what the plants don't. Just make sure the fish are few, and not overly-sensitive. Some fish should never be put in newish tanks but only established tanks.

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[QUOTE=Byron;1208489]If you can get some plants too, especially floating, and with the SafeStart, you set the tank up and put in the first few fish. The plants grab the ammonia and the SafeStart seeds the bac teria to get what the plants don't. Just make sure the fish are few, and not overly-sensitive. Some fish should never be put in newish tanks but only established tanks.[/QUOTE

Bryon...What are the plants you have in your aquarium?They are beautiful.Do u have sand or gravel?
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If you can get some plants too, especially floating, and with the SafeStart, you set the tank up and put in the first few fish. The plants grab the ammonia and the SafeStart seeds the bac teria to get what the plants don't. Just make sure the fish are few, and not overly-sensitive. Some fish should never be put in newish tanks but only established tanks.[/QUOTE

Bryon...What are the plants you have in your aquarium?They are beautiful.Do u have sand or gravel?
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The plant species are all listed in the tank data. I have play sand in my 115g, 33g, 29g tanks, fine gravel in the 90g, and Flourite in the 70g which is coming out this month for playsand.

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Are your fish listed there too?
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Yes. The tanks are under the "Aquariums" tab below my name on the left of this post.

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Byron is right, it's never 100% safe to use donor media from a fish store, it's much better to get it from a friend's tank. Assuming of course that you can trust your friend has a healthy tank.

Absolutely nothing beats a fishless cycle which is done by dosing the tank with ammonia on purpose before you add any fish. Unfortunately it's also the slowest method.

A fish in cycle can work but you need to start with just a couple very hardy fish, like maybe Danios or something similar. Neon Tetras for instance don't do well in new tanks, only well established ones.

Oh, and adding plants is a great idea because they consume ammonia as well as nitrates.

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I have a Rena Filstar XP3 on my 36 gallon, which is totally overkill. I already bought a Rena XP2 to replace it with so I can use the XP3 for a 55 gallon I'm planning.

These are canister filters that store under the cabinet so you don't have that big honking noisy hang on back type power filter that most people buy. I paid about $90 or $100 for the XP2 and that's the filter I would recommend. Let me know if you want a link to buy one for less than the pet stores sell them for.
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Byron is right, it's never 100% safe to use donor media from a fish store, it's much better to get it from a friend's tank. Assuming of course that you can trust your friend has a healthy tank.

Absolutely nothing beats a fishless cycle which is done by dosing the tank with ammonia on purpose before you add any fish. Unfortunately it's also the slowest method.

A fish in cycle can work but you need to start with just a couple very hardy fish, like maybe Danios or something similar. Neon Tetras for instance don't do well in new tanks, only well established ones.

Oh, and adding plants is a great idea because they consume ammonia as well as nitrates.


Ruskull i would love to see your tank.Have any pics yet>I will look into the Rena XP2.Is that better then the Marineland?I don't want a loud filter.Just a good quiet one
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FYI- the reason ammonia isn't a bid deal if your ph is below 7 is because ammonia combines almost very quickly with a hydroxide (-OH) molecule to become ammonium which plants use as a nutrient.
Fish live longest, healthiest and look best when they are living in water closest to their ideal range in ph, temp, water hardness, and salinity. Fish stores usually keep fish in 7 ph water and this is usually fine since the fish aren't there long term. Keeping fish outside of their water requirements will stress some to weaken their immune systems which will leave them ore open to illnesses of all kinds. Other fish will tolerate this some to some degree outside their range but will have shorter life spans and will not breed.

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