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Need advice on what fish to put together
Old 08-21-2012, 12:08 AM   #11
 
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Whoa there!! Hold your horses there sunshine. Unless you are putting all live substrate in here you have to let it cycle, meaning that you need to let the biological filter set up before you put a lot of fish in there even with live substrate you should wait at least a week to let things stabilize. Guarmis are sensitive and need a mature tank to live in. Guarmis really are not a good fish to cycle a tank with. Caution with puffers they are aggressive and need their natural food in their diet. Puffers eat invertebrates in nature, meaning snails, shrimp, crabs, and clams and fish too. Also puffers are normally brackish water fish.
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Old 08-21-2012, 06:24 AM   #12
 
LOL....Actually Gouramis are good to cycle a tank.Alot of research on them said they are good cycling fish.I would let my tank run until it was all ready for a few fish at a time.I'm going to get all live plants for my tank this time also.I'm going to go with a sand bottom.I work as a supervisor at the LFS and the manager said sand can be hard to clean cuz any movement in the sand can go right into the filter and ruin it.Is this true?
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Old 08-21-2012, 08:30 AM   #13
 
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I'm going to put my Gourami's in the 36 when i get it this week.I will also get about 5 more Kuhli Loaches.
What do you have in your tank?Why saty away from Killifish>I have on now and he does real good.I also want to empty my 5 gallon and do a dwarf Puffer tank.They are so cute
You can see my 36 gallon stock in my Aquarium under my nae. I'll upload pics, etc, when I get a chance.

Personal preference would keep me from Killifish. I've also heard they grow real big and they'll eat anything that fits in their mouth, like maybe any Tetras, etc. Other folks swear by them...........the best bet is to do your research. Make sure they are compatible with the rest of the fish you have planned.

Sorry, I can't help with the Dwarf Puffers either, I have no experience with them.
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Old 08-21-2012, 08:49 AM   #14
 
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LOL....Actually Gouramis are good to cycle a tank.Alot of research on them said they are good cycling fish.I would let my tank run until it was all ready for a few fish at a time.I'm going to get all live plants for my tank this time also.I'm going to go with a sand bottom.I work as a supervisor at the LFS and the manager said sand can be hard to clean cuz any movement in the sand can go right into the filter and ruin it.Is this true?
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Dwarf Gouramis are awesome creatures but they've been overbred to the point of lowering thier immune system. Do some research on DGD, Dwarf Gourami Disease aka Indovirus. Poor water quality certainly doesn't help.

Three Spot or Blue Gouramis are considered a pretty good fish for a "fish in cycle" beause they're very hardy, can handle larger changes in their water chemistry and they breathe from the air via their labyrinth organ so low oxygen in the water is not as much of a problem.

I'm not sure of how much you know about cycling so I'll just give the basics:

Fish give off ammonia in their waste. Fish swimming in ammonia will die, regardless of how hardy they are. At very least you will be shortening their life span.

"Cycling" a tank is developing colonies of good bacteria that consume the ammonia turning it into nitrite. Nitrite is even more toxic to fish than ammonia, but the good news is another type of good bacteria converts the nitrite to nitrate, which is only harmful to fish in large amounts. We remove the nitrate by doing weekly water changes.

In conclusion: Ammonia > Nitrite > Nitrate > Water Change
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Old 08-21-2012, 09:37 AM   #15
 
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LOL....Actually Gouramis are good to cycle a tank.Alot of research on them said they are good cycling fish.I would let my tank run until it was all ready for a few fish at a time.I'm going to get all live plants for my tank this time also.I'm going to go with a sand bottom.I work as a supervisor at the LFS and the manager said sand can be hard to clean cuz any movement in the sand can go right into the filter and ruin it.Is this true?
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Live plants will consume some of the Nitrates, plus they look really good & give the fish some cover. I'm all for planted tanks. Try starting with plants that are considered low tech like Anubias and Java Fern.

I have sand substrate in 2 of my 3 tanks and they can ruin a filter if you don't do it right. Normally the filter intake is only about 4 inches from the bottom, but when you have sand you want it a bit higher than that so it doesn't pick up too much sand. Also, Corys & Kuhlis like to surf through the sand and that can kick up a lot of dust that gets into your filter's impeller. Since you're planning on Kuhlis for this new tank maybe it's best to use a larger grain sand or maybe a sand & gravel mix. The latter is good for holding down plants as well.

If you want to save a lot of money on your sand substrate, try playsand. It takes a lot more rinsing but it can be worth it when a 50 lb. bag is only about $5-6 rather than $40-60 for a bag of "Aquarium" sand. The biggest problem with Playsand is that it a bit more light & dusty, which might not be good for Kuhlis digging around.
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Old 08-21-2012, 09:48 AM   #17
 
Thank you for the advice.I do water changes once a week.Right now my 5 gallon tank is at PH is 0.5,Nitrate is 0,Ammonia is .50(why?)Nitrate is 0.Starting to feed fish once everyother day instead of every day.My DG doesn't like that to much:(
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Old 08-21-2012, 11:02 AM   #18
 
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.5 ppm ammonia calls an immediate water change! In fact any ammonia reading over.25 needs a water change even when doing a fish-in cycle.

The pH reading doesn't make any sense, a typical pH reading is between 6 and 8. Try testing the tap water you use. Leave it out for a day if you can before testing it which will give you a more accurate reading.

You really need to test for nitrite also, because as you're doing a fish in cycle you'll see the ammonia level drop as the nitrite level raises. Water changes might need to be done daily to keep them in check.

I wouldn't really bother checking for nitrate at this point until your ammonia & nitrite levels consistently read zero.
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Old 08-21-2012, 11:36 AM   #19
 
Nitrate is 0..I just did a water change yesterday.Should I do another today?I just want the best for them
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Nitrate is 0..I just did a water change yesterday.Should I do another today?I just want the best for them
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Again, you don't need to check for nitrAtes, but for nitrItes. That as well as ammonia. Any reading over .25 ppm for ammonia requires a minimum 50% water change. Same for nitrite.

You really shouldn't worry about pH or Nitrate at this point.

What type of test kit are you using? I have the API Master Freshwater kit and it works much better than test strips.
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