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post #11 of 17 Old 04-19-2013, 11:46 AM
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What other species would go wll with the Glass Cats? I would like to maybe get 6 Neons and another small school of something else if possible.
I would up the neons, say 8-9. "Six" is the usual minimum number mentioned for tetra, but if space allows then having more will always be better for the fish and you. The more there are, the more "relaxed" and normal the fish will feel/behave, and that means you will see them as nature intended, interacting, brightly coloured, etc.

Can't remember if it was mentioned earlier, but make sure there are floating plants, lots of them, over these fish (Glass Cats and neons, and other forest fish). Water Sprite is ideal for this. Fish love its dangling roots, it is attractive, and a good source of microscopic food.

If you read the data in the Glass Catfish profile, it mentions slow-flowing shaded streams as the habitat, so suitable fish will be those preferring a similar environment. The neons fit this. Others might be rasbora such as Lambchop Rasbora or Hengels Rasbora, even the slightly larger closely-related Harlequin Rasbora; Lemon Tetra would add a bit of different colour to the tank. Loreto Tetra. Marble Hatchetfish or Black-Winged Hatchetfish--these two in the Carnegiella genus are smaller and quieter than the larger Silver so a better choice. You mentioned the Black Widow earlier, and as Izzy noted it is a bit boisterous, but something along similar lines in appearance is the Black Phantom Tetra.

I don't think the tetra I've mentioned are likely to fin nip the Glass cats, provided the tetra are in a decent-sized group, 8 or so of each species selected.

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post #12 of 17 Old 04-19-2013, 12:02 PM Thread Starter
If I got 7 Glass Catsfish and 7-8 Cardinal Tetra, A) would that work out ok? & B) Is there room for 1 more species of fish? Even if it is a single fish?

Also, The water Sprite wont block my other plants from getting enough light will it? What size should I keep it trimmed too?
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Also, If I do eliminate the Glass Catfish, what are some good fish to get. I do like the Black Skirt Tetras. Thanks a lot for your advice!
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post #14 of 17 Old 04-19-2013, 12:25 PM Thread Starter
One other question about the water sprite. I have my tank filled to the bottom of the trim right now, leaving about an inch from the water to the light. Do I need to empty some water out to accomodate these plants? How far do they stick out of the water?
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post #15 of 17 Old 04-19-2013, 01:21 PM
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Water Sprite will be fine wityh the water at the tank frame level. And you thin it weekly by removing the daughter plants from the leaves after they form, and discarding the largest plant(s). Once you get into the habit, this keeps approximately the same amount of coverage. Obviously any floating plant will lessen the light getting to the lower plants, but given the benefit of floating plants to all forest fish, you select lower light lower plants, like Java Fern (and mosses on wood, etc), chain sword or pygmy chain sword, crypts, Anubias.

You've room for groups of perhaps 3, 4 or even 5 fish, depending what the species are. If you don't get the Glass cats, your options open a bit. Profile explains this.

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If I got 7 Glass Catsfish and 7-8 Cardinal Tetra, A) would that work out ok? & B) Is there room for 1 more species of fish? Even if it is a single fish?

Also, The water Sprite wont block my other plants from getting enough light will it? What size should I keep it trimmed too?
Byron mentioned some good fishes for your tank. Personally I like the look of a single large shoal of fish, but others like a bit more variety. If you got rid of the glass cats (reason to set up another tank lol) then the black skirts would be a possibility, but tiger barbs would still not be a possibility because while they are also boisterous they need more room than a 29 if you want to keep them with other fish.

Since you are planning to return the clown loaches, have you thought any more about fishes for the substrate? Have a school of interesting fish like kuhli loaches or corydoras on the substrate give the whole tank movement instead of just the water column. These guys don't bother plants at all.

I have a moderately planted 29 with a canopy of water sprite. It doesn't affect the plants below at all because I chose low-light plants like anubias, crypts, and java ferns. I've attached a picture of my tank. Those long roots dangling down are the water sprite. My gourami like to pick at the roots for food.
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post #17 of 17 Old 04-19-2013, 02:39 PM Thread Starter
Thanks a lot for the advice. That tank is beautiful! Im sure i will have more questions in the near future. Cant wait for this tank to cycle!
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