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post #11 of 56 Old 03-12-2009, 09:25 PM Thread Starter
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ok great I just found one of the 'missing' fish...dead in one of the decorations. yuck. now there is some 'slime' floating in the tank.
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post #12 of 56 Old 03-12-2009, 11:31 PM
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I think i'll toss all the rocks and get fresh clean new ones...that way I dont have to 'weed' through them picking out the 100 dead snails. (the snails are good right?) I also want to get the 'bottom' filter for under the gravel. I dont exactly have the time to suction my tank every week takieg the "10-15%" of water out and refilling it with 'non cholorine water"...what does that mean anyway? I have to buy like 6 gal bottled water every week? forget that!

I've got the magnetic scraper/brush thing I use often. Will also be getting my test kit ...maybe tomorrow or saturday. I just want a CLEAR tank with pretty fish...-sigh- I do miss those poor fishy i killed. I cried...and still do once in a while over it. :(

Also what is the deal with the platy fish? Are they like 'weird' hiding fish? I had 3 others that came with the tank originally...and they were no where near as HUGE as the ones I got on craigslist. They were small and seemed social. Swam around the tank...didnt hide like this other one. Also...are they supposed to look like their stomachs are going to pop? I thought they were pregger when the woman gave them to me.
An undergravel filter will not make up for doing water changes. Dechlorinated is tap water with no chlorine... you can buy a dechlorinator for like $4. And it takes 15 minutes to do a water change. That's what I do on a 40G REEF anyways.

The platy is acting odd because of A) the terrible water quality or B) not having other platies. They are social.

You need to be doing daily water changes to help this tank if you want it at all.
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post #13 of 56 Old 03-13-2009, 01:34 AM
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If it were me then I would take the fish and place him/them in a 10G pale with an air hose and stone in with it and take all the water out. When you add the water back in use Aqua Plus Tap Water Conditioner. Just follow the instructions I have a few tanks and that's the best stuff to use and the only chemical I use for my freshwater tanks. Good luck with it though.
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post #14 of 56 Old 03-13-2009, 09:10 AM
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I think i'll toss all the rocks and get fresh clean new ones...that way I dont have to 'weed' through them picking out the 100 dead snails. (the snails are good right?) I also want to get the 'bottom' filter for under the gravel. I dont exactly have the time to suction my tank every week takieg the "10-15%" of water out and refilling it with 'non cholorine water"...what does that mean anyway? I have to buy like 6 gal bottled water every week? forget that!
You need to do a 15% water change everyweek! A "bottom filter" will not help with your situaiton. You do not need to buy 6 gallons of bottled water everyweek. you can use tap water and buy a $5 bottle of de-chlorinator. Changing fish water is the weekly care that fish require, it's crucial for their survival!!! You wouldn't say "forget that" if you had a dog that pooped all over your yard would you? Fish need their water changed.

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I've got the magnetic scraper/brush thing I use often. Will also be getting my test kit ...maybe tomorrow or saturday. I just want a CLEAR tank with pretty fish...-sigh- I do miss those poor fishy i killed. I cried...and still do once in a while over it. :(
Everyone wants a "clear tank with pretty fish", thats impossible without weekly care. Losing fish is part of the process though, it happens and the thing you need figure out is....WHY? what's wrong with your tank that killed your fish? Which leads into you needing a test kit.

May sound harsh, but it's the truth. Fish need to be kept for, just like any other pet. If you keep up with your water changes (which will take no more than 20mins, once a week) Your tank will be "clear and have pretty fish in it" for long time.

Right now you're cylcing, you need to do 10-15% water changes almost daily to get your tank to the level of which you desire
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post #15 of 56 Old 03-13-2009, 09:37 AM Thread Starter
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ok great so thats is what i needed to hear...that i need to change the water for several days while it 'cycles'. will get the test kit tonight.

our friend who gave us the tank never said i need to 'change' the water weekly. i think he just said add water every week. hes had this tank for years and years.

also i need a 'longer' tube to syphen the water straight into my kitchen sink...would make easier then putting it in a bucket and having to dump that. I've made a mess every time i did that.

the bottom filter would make it easier though to clean the bottom sediment right?
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post #16 of 56 Old 03-13-2009, 10:27 AM
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with a gravel vac, you can just jam the end of the tube (where the into the siphon is) into the gravel and pull out all the detritis......

How far is your kitchen sink from your tank? I believe for a siphon to work properly.....the drainage bucket (in this case your sink) needs to be below the level of the water you a draining(your tank).....so if you run the siphon out of your tank, down the side of your stand and along the floor and then up to your sink again, I dont think it will drain properly.....

^^^I'm not Bill Nye the science guy, but I think thats how it works!
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post #17 of 56 Old 03-13-2009, 02:19 PM
Taking care of fish is alot of work. First you need to make sure u have
~tank
~Heater
~filter
~hood
~gravel vacume
~hospital tank
~water conditioner
~water testing kit
~1ish gallon bucket (no metal on it. use for water changes)
~substrate
~hiding places
~stand
~quarenteen tank (if you add any new fish keep them in a seperate tank for a few weeks to make sure they are not sick
~food
~live plants are good, but not necessary

You NEED all of these. Do a 15 percent water change once a week (make sure you dechloranate water before you put it in the tank) I vacume gravel once every 2 weeks. If any fish show sighns of illness put them in a differnt tank, away from the other fish to treat ( you can find medication for almost any fish disease at a pet/fish store). hospital tanks should be bare bottom with maybe a flower pot to hide in. If you decide to get new fish, put them in a qt tank for a weeks to make sure they are healthy and happy. check ur water perameters about once a month, or any time a fish looks "off".

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post #18 of 56 Old 03-13-2009, 03:13 PM Thread Starter
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with a gravel vac, you can just jam the end of the tube (where the into the siphon is) into the gravel and pull out all the detritis......

How far is your kitchen sink from your tank? I believe for a siphon to work properly.....the drainage bucket (in this case your sink) needs to be below the level of the water you a draining(your tank).....so if you run the siphon out of your tank, down the side of your stand and along the floor and then up to your sink again, I dont think it will drain properly.....

^^^I'm not Bill Nye the science guy, but I think thats how it works!

The kitchen sink is 3 foot from the tank. I have about a 4 foot tube...it works...to a certain point. lol
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post #19 of 56 Old 03-13-2009, 04:26 PM
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Look up a Python. They are gravel vacs that attach to your sink.
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post #20 of 56 Old 03-13-2009, 08:17 PM
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were you able to get a test kit yet? if so what are you readings?
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