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Old 06-26-2012, 03:47 PM   #21
 
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Yea, I am not adding any fish any more. I will need to get rid of some of the Platy fry I have, which is just taking them to the LFS.

Byron's suggestion is mainly for constipation and it works quite well. Is the poop white and stringy or normal colored?

If its white and stringy you could just use the API General Cure and treat the tank, it gets parasites and anything like that. Usually covers the basis of these types of infections. If that doesn't work it will most likely be a bacteria infection.

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I am thinking of the Kribensis, Mollies and Platys in the 20 gallon for long term. That way the compatibility with her wont be an issue AND she can take care of my overwhelming snail issue in that tank. Its' overloaded with Ramshorn and Bladder snails.

Gourami will most likely end up in the 10 gallon long term.

I'm really thinking that all 3 rams will end up going into the 29 unless I want to try a gourami/Cichlid mix....which I don't want to do. I would rather see what happens with the 3 Rams in the 29. I will be adding more spacial breakers and plants to that tank. It will have less open swimming area near the bottom so they can relax more.

Within the year I am hoping to start up a main tank that is bigger than my 29...but I need time and money for that so its longer term. I will need a shorter term solution until that happens.

I know I shouldn't keep the three together Byron, but I put myself in the situation by not sexing the rams properly so now I have to deal with it. I may have to do something else though....if they don't get along. I will get the pictures up to confirm the sexes of the rams though. If I have a pair, then it will make me feel better.
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Old 06-26-2012, 03:50 PM   #22
 
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Feed them some shelled peas. Fresh or frozen, just squeeze the peas out of their outer covering so you are just feeding the mush.
Really, what does that do?

just normal peas? I have frozen peas, petit pois type things. just defrost them and squeeze the insides out into the tank? how much do you reckon for a 29g heavily stocked?

What do you think could be the problem?

cheers for the advice Byron.
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Old 06-26-2012, 03:57 PM   #23
 
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Really, what does that do?

just normal peas? I have frozen peas, petit pois type things. just defrost them and squeeze the insides out into the tank? how much do you reckon for a 29g heavily stocked?

What do you think could be the problem?

cheers for the advice Byron.
No idea on the issue, I do not second guess health problems. The reason I suggest the peas is because i have heard many members here recommend peas for intenstinal/digestive issues. It helps to clean out the tract. Can't hurt. But of course, it this is a protozoan or bacteria, something else may have to be used to target that.
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Old 06-26-2012, 03:58 PM   #24
 
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Just wanted to add, I changed their food at the weekend. I was feeding a brand called aquarian flakes and have switched to tetra pro colour crisps, I asked at this high end LFS I go to every once in a while to get my plants (have to travel to get there, rather than my usual one on my doorstep) if they could recommend a high end flaked food, with higher grade ingredients and the guy, who is super helpful suggested this tetra pro stuff, he feeds it at home and they use it on all the tanks in the shop too.

It could be the change of food maybe? seems coincidental that this should happen around the same time?
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Old 06-26-2012, 04:10 PM   #25
 
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Yea, I am not adding any fish any more. I will need to get rid of some of the Platy fry I have, which is just taking them to the LFS.

Byron's suggestion is mainly for constipation and it works quite well. Is the poop white and stringy or normal colored?

If its white and stringy you could just use the API General Cure and treat the tank, it gets parasites and anything like that. Usually covers the basis of these types of infections. If that doesn't work it will most likely be a bacteria infection.

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I am thinking of the Kribensis, Mollies and Platys in the 20 gallon for long term. That way the compatibility with her wont be an issue AND she can take care of my overwhelming snail issue in that tank. Its' overloaded with Ramshorn and Bladder snails.

Gourami will most likely end up in the 10 gallon long term.

I'm really thinking that all 3 rams will end up going into the 29 unless I want to try a gourami/Cichlid mix....which I don't want to do. I would rather see what happens with the 3 Rams in the 29. I will be adding more spacial breakers and plants to that tank. It will have less open swimming area near the bottom so they can relax more.

Within the year I am hoping to start up a main tank that is bigger than my 29...but I need time and money for that so its longer term. I will need a shorter term solution until that happens.

I know I shouldn't keep the three together Byron, but I put myself in the situation by not sexing the rams properly so now I have to deal with it. I may have to do something else though....if they don't get along. I will get the pictures up to confirm the sexes of the rams though. If I have a pair, then it will make me feel better.
I think a big main tank for you is the way to go Termato! and an RO system hooked up to your tap, or a tap just for that instead of hooked to your kitchen sink. It doesn't cost all that much to buy one, and I know its a lot of wasted water, but if your only using it once a week for x amount of gallons it wouldn't be too much waste. its not like your gonna have a 240 gallon reef set up... oh how dreamy that wold be!

anyhoo, your pretty screwed with the ram situ right now, I guess... the chances of them 3 getting on in a small tank is pretty unlikely like byron said, if one dies, it'll be sad but problem solved I guess. Got any fishy friends that you could give him to? or take it back to be rehoused at the LFS maybe? or is it petsmart? in which case don't they will likely throw it in the trash.

Again the Krib rears its evil head, what an incompatibility fly in the ointment, if it wasn't for that things might be a bit smoother. Tough spot, sucks when things get like this.
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Old 06-26-2012, 04:35 PM   #26
 
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Really, what does that do?

just normal peas? I have frozen peas, petit pois type things. just defrost them and squeeze the insides out into the tank? how much do you reckon for a 29g heavily stocked?

What do you think could be the problem?

cheers for the advice Byron.
Peas are also good because the produce a recognizable color poop. Fish poop should always be the same color as the food. Any frozen peas will work. Just make sure they aren't canned. Those peas have waaay to much salt in them.

I'm not really sure how many you would need. Try 6-7 and see how fast they are eaten up.
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Old 06-26-2012, 05:24 PM   #27
 
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Update

Here is what I have done since arriving home today.


I have moved the Gourami into the 29 gallon tank where he seems to be adapting. He had a face off with the Kribensis who is just as scared of him as he is of her. I am not worried about either of them because both of them seem to be holding their ground. I am going to keep an eye on them to make sure nothing goes wrong. I have noticed the Gourami chasing the Kribensis recently. He wont follow her across the entire tank though, just establishing territory.

I moved the Male Sailfin Lyretail molly into a 1.75 QT tank where I am treating him with Tetracycline for internal bacterial infection. The tank is not heater or filtered, it has a air pump running on it. I may go get a small filter for the tank, the heater I am not worried because the house stays at a good enough temperature.

I moved the sick Bolivian Ram into the 10 gallon tank where he is not residing by himself in the tank. He is hiding and I will keep an eye on him. The other two in the 20 are doing great and eating fine. They are getting along well too.

What should I treat the Bolivian Ram with. General Cure again? I only notice white stringy poop and he is a little pale.

Pictures and a video coming soon of the Rams for sexing.
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Old 06-26-2012, 05:35 PM   #28
 
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The first attached image is of the Alpha Ram. He is the one who has taken over the front of the tank. He chases the other Ram out of his territory. The other one is not as defensive as he is.

Here is also a link to a video of the two Rams behaviors. They did get into a tangle and a few Ram interlocks. Nothing too aggressive yet, just a lot of face offs.


The third Ram is very similar to the second Ram. The first one has the different shaped head. The third ones anus/vent area is also swollen so it is harder to tell the gender. He is hiding so I can't get a good picture.

I will attempt to get better pictures later.
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Old 06-26-2012, 08:02 PM   #29
 
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I don't know what "General Cure' is but be careful adding medications. Unless one is certain of the problem and can target it with a medication that is effective and can be tolerated by the particular fish, it can do more harm.
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Old 06-26-2012, 08:05 PM   #30
 
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I don't know what "General Cure' is but be careful adding medications. Unless one is certain of the problem and can target it with a medication that is effective and can be tolerated by the particular fish, it can do more harm.
General cure is:

250mg Metronidazole
75mg Praziquantel

per 10 gallon dosing.

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