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Old 06-26-2012, 11:07 AM   #11
 
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Most of the images I found of lympho infections were pretty bad. It is possible that he could have a parasite infection, but you are treating the tank with prazi (a strong anti-parasitic) and you should have seen some reduction. Attached is an image of my betta's lympho infection as a comparison. It wasn't a bad case

Lympho won't outright kill the fish. It will weaken the fish and allow other opportunistic infections like fungus or parasites to creep in. As dropsy is thought to be a bacterial infection, then yes, your fish could come down with dropsy every once in a while. As for a cure for dropsy, I'm not too sure. I've never dealt with it, and it seems like every aquarist has their own cure for it. If something has worked for you before, try it again.
The Dropsy would come as a result of this disease. I can take this fish and quarantine him to treat with the Tetracycline Hydrochloride which is for bacterial infections. I already treated for parasites and it didn't work.

I am also really concerned about one of my Bolivian Rams. Two of them have sectioned off the 20 gallon tank each side for themselves. The third gets this little back end corner of nothing and is hiding and I saw stringy white poop coming out the past two days while the treatment has been done for a few days before that. He is still pale in color but i have seen him nibble and has a little orange in his belly. Any suggestions on what to do about this fish?

I don't really want to get a quarantine tank but do you think a 1.75 gallon could serve a quarantine tank for either of these fish for the duration of a treatment. I think the Bolivian Rams is more severe and life threatening, therefore it should be taken care of first. The mollies he can live with for a bit longer so I want to focus on the Ram.

Thanks everyone for the help so far. Koi, thanks for the advice, I will most likely end up treating for what you suggested as it seems to be the most likely of things to be so far.
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Old 06-26-2012, 01:26 PM   #12
 
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On the Bolivian Ram issue; a 20g is very small quarters for more than a pair (male/female) or a single Bolivian. Have you seen any sign of pushing, chasing, etc. by either of the other rams toward this one?

I have a male Bolivian in my 5-foot 115g tank. I managed to find a female and added it. He seemed to accept her, and they went through 4 spawnings, then he decided he no longer wanted her around and killed her simply by always going after her. Rams are territorial, and a male will always take the entire tank as "his" and they only bond with the female they choose.

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Old 06-26-2012, 01:46 PM   #13
 
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On the Bolivian Ram issue; a 20g is very small quarters for more than a pair (male/female) or a single Bolivian. Have you seen any sign of pushing, chasing, etc. by either of the other rams toward this one?
Yes I have noticed the two main healthy ones created a border where the wood is. They will have stand offs/pushing ramming battles there. Both of them will chase the third one away to the back of the tank. The plan is to move these fish into the 29, I just wanted to treat them separately from all my other fish in case they were sick.

I can move them into the 29 right now if necessary--more on this below.

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I have a male Bolivian in my 5-foot 115g tank. I managed to find a female and added it. He seemed to accept her, and they went through 4 spawnings, then he decided he no longer wanted her around and killed her simply by always going after her. Rams are territorial, and a male will always take the entire tank as "his" and they only bond with the female they choose.

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I will have to sex all three of my Rams. They may all three be male, which I think they are, although I thought I chose at least one female.

This was the main reason I listed all of the tanks available to move fish into.

29 Gallon Community Tank that will be turned into a soft water tank slowly. Neons and Cories The male molly in here will be moved to the 20 gallon tank.

20 Gallon Community Tank that will stay hard water with Platys and Mollies.

10 Gallon Community Tank - Unknown Outcome

Fish that need to be decided on where to put:

1 Female Kribensis Cichlid
1 Male Dwarf Gourami
3 Male(possible) Bolivian Rams

I'm quite sure with the barriers, plants and everything in the 29 I can put in a weird combination in there that would not normally work. Thoughts?

Thanks for the help.

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Old 06-26-2012, 01:55 PM   #14
 
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Staying on the Bolivian issue, you do not have any tanks listed that are sufficient in area for 3 Bolivians, or two males.

If you read our profile it mentions that in its habitat this fish occurs in isolation, only pairing up to spawn. Placed in the small confines of any tank there will be trouble. I would almost guarantee the "sickness" of the one Bolivian is solely due to the aggressin from the other two. If you separate the "sick" one i would expect it to recover. If not, I can all but assure you it will be dead soon.

If two of the three are together, they are likely male/female. Two female might tolerate each other, but they wouldn't be defending a territory.
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Old 06-26-2012, 02:15 PM   #15
 
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Staying on the Bolivian issue, you do not have any tanks listed that are sufficient in area for 3 Bolivians, or two males.

If you read our profile it mentions that in its habitat this fish occurs in isolation, only pairing up to spawn. Placed in the small confines of any tank there will be trouble. I would almost guarantee the "sickness" of the one Bolivian is solely due to the aggressin from the other two. If you separate the "sick" one i would expect it to recover. If not, I can all but assure you it will be dead soon.

If two of the three are together, they are likely male/female. Two female might tolerate each other, but they wouldn't be defending a territory.
I will take a picture of the three Rams to help identify the sex, although I do think all three are male. My original plan was to put the pair in the 29 and one in the 20, I may have to settle for this until I either set up another tank of can figure something else out. That is the reason I brought up the entire stocking issue.

For now, I can move the sick Ram into a quarantine tank when I get home today to assure his health. I just have to decide where to quarantine him.

My other concern once I Quarantine the Ram is that I will most likely end up with some kind of incompatibility unless I want to get rid of fish.

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Old 06-26-2012, 02:54 PM   #16
 
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I'm thinking about Quarantining the Bolivian Ram in the 10 Gallon tank with the Gourami. Thoughts?

I could move the gourami into the 20 gallon to keep the Ram in the 10 by himself.
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Old 06-26-2012, 02:56 PM   #17
 
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I would not have a cichlid and gourami together- especially in a 10 gallon.
I'd move the gourami (is there a reason it's by itself?)
Since it's just QT 10 gallons should be fine for him for now.
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Old 06-26-2012, 02:57 PM   #18
 
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I would not have a cichlid and gourami together- especially in a 10 gallon.
I'd move the gourami (is there a reason it's by itself?)
Since it's just QT 10 gallons should be fine for him for now.
The gourami is being Quarantined. 3 weeks in right now.

The 10 gallon is my quarantine / hostpital / fry tank.

yeah the plan was the keep the gourami in the 10 gallon for good BUT I think the gourami would work better with the Rams than the Kribensis would.

That Kribensis is quite ferocious, but she stays away from the molly, cories and the school of tetras. I've only ever seen her chase all of them away while eating AND go after the old Bolivian Ram i had (burt) who died from Camallaus. I was going to keep her in the 20 gallon in the end with the mollies and platys, the only issue now being that all three rams can't go in the 29. Therefore I think I will have to keep 2 rams in the 29 (even though they wont be super happy about it), 1 ram in the 20, krib in the 10. The question is where does the gourami go? OR if I should keep 3 rams in the 29 and then everything is fine....

That is the stocking issue. Chesh suggested using a divider on the 10 gallon for now. Keeping the ram and gourami separated through the divider....

Tough spot...

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Old 06-26-2012, 03:37 PM   #19
 
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Holly molly things are complicated in the Termato fishery!! what a NIGHTMARE, think its time to stop adding to the collection, until things get less complicated. I hope you find some kind of agreeable resolution for everyone concerned. Would suck to loose another Ram. You know my feelings on Kribs, just looking at one now gives me acid reflux!

Not wanting to hijack your thread, as things are compacted enough as it is.... but,

I think I am possibly on the brink of some kind of pooping disaster..

Noticed my female honey gourami with long stringy poop today, first inch or so was normal then it went all thin and fine right up to the body. seen her do normal poops since, but seen the stringy stuff a couple times.

Also today noticed nearly all of my danios with poop hanging, which I have NEVER seen, let alone all at the same time, at least wasn't stringy though..

and then 2 of my platys seemed to have stringy poop too, although thats not unusual for them, couldn't really tell if it was the really thin stuff or not.

the reason I worry, I added 3 oto's at the weekend, I got them from my trusted LFS and didn't QT them, I never do as I don't have a QT tank.. I did notice at the LFS that in the platy tank there was one with long wispy white stringy poop, but the tank was around 50 tanks the other direction from where the oto tank was... not sure if the tanks are all connected or not? the oto's seem fine, no pooping issues, although I know fish can carry parasites etc.

What do you think I should do? just keep an eye on the pooping, see what happens? medicate with something? it would have to be the whole tank, and I got some cory's which I believe don't like meds eh?
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Old 06-26-2012, 03:43 PM   #20
 
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Holly molly things are complicated in the Termato fishery!! what a NIGHTMARE, think its time to stop adding to the collection, until things get less complicated. I hope you find some kind of agreeable resolution for everyone concerned. Would suck to loose another Ram. You know my feelings on Kribs, just looking at one now gives me acid reflux!

Not wanting to hijack your thread, as things are compacted enough as it is.... but,

I think I am possibly on the brink of some kind of pooping disaster..

Noticed my female honey gourami with long stringy poop today, first inch or so was normal then it went all thin and fine right up to the body. seen her do normal poops since, but seen the stringy stuff a couple times.

Also today noticed nearly all of my danios with poop hanging, which I have NEVER seen, let alone all at the same time, at least wasn't stringy though..

and then 2 of my platys seemed to have stringy poop too, although thats not unusual for them, couldn't really tell if it was the really thin stuff or not.

the reason I worry, I added 3 oto's at the weekend, I got them from my trusted LFS and didn't QT them, I never do as I don't have a QT tank.. I did notice at the LFS that in the platy tank there was one with long wispy white stringy poop, but the tank was around 50 tanks the other direction from where the oto tank was... not sure if the tanks are all connected or not? the oto's seem fine, no pooping issues, although I know fish can carry parasites etc.

What do you think I should do? just keep an eye on the pooping, see what happens? medicate with something? it would have to be the whole tank, and I got some cory's which I believe don't like meds eh?
Feed them some shelled peas. Fresh or frozen, just squeeze the peas out of their outer covering so you are just feeding the mush.
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