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post #11 of 26 Old 07-11-2012, 03:49 PM
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You can check the water parameters in our profiles, second tab from the left in the blue bar across the top of the page. If the name in the profile is used identically in a post, it will shade and you can click on that for the profile, example Sparkling Grouami or Celestial Pearl Danio or Endlers Livebearer.

Aside from the water, there are other issues with the mentioned fish that make them non-compatible. That too is explained in the respective profile. Plus, there isnot sufficient space in a 10g for more than one option.

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post #12 of 26 Old 07-11-2012, 04:21 PM
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I had three female platys and five neon tetras in my ten gallon tank. Neons are a great addition to tanks as they are so bright and colorful, however you want to make sure you get them from a good store. Chain pet stores tend to have unhealthy fish.
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IMO neons need more space for swimming room and they need friends. Thanks Byron, I'll check out the profiles (probably should have done that earlier).
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post #14 of 26 Old 07-11-2012, 11:38 PM Thread Starter
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Ok, I read all of the profiles and did a little extra research, and I see what you mean byron. I really like the idea of sparkling gouramis, but I don't know If I can get the pH that low. Bucause the pH of RO water is 7, I can't really get below that very much. This tank will have driftwood, but if it isn't leaching tannins, will it lower pH much? I am sure that with all of those plants, fish, DW, and RO water, the pH will drop to around 6.5-6.8. Am I right? I will be using RO w/ seachem equilibrium, so I can get the GH right for sure. Should six sparkling gouramis work? It sayd 3 for 5 gallons would work, and they should be in groups of 6+, so it sounds good to me. These water params would be perfect for RCS right? I saw some cool neocaridina varieties on aquabid that I might have to try out. One more question, do the sparkling gourami's get really aggressive when they spawn like other species of gourami/betta? Because with 6 I will probably get M/F and they sound like they breed easy. Thanks!
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Ok, I read all of the profiles and did a little extra research, and I see what you mean byron. I really like the idea of sparkling gouramis, but I don't know If I can get the pH that low. Bucause the pH of RO water is 7, I can't really get below that very much. This tank will have driftwood, but if it isn't leaching tannins, will it lower pH much? I am sure that with all of those plants, fish, DW, and RO water, the pH will drop to around 6.5-6.8. Am I right? I will be using RO w/ seachem equilibrium, so I can get the GH right for sure. Should six sparkling gouramis work? It sayd 3 for 5 gallons would work, and they should be in groups of 6+, so it sounds good to me. These water params would be perfect for RCS right? I saw some cool neocaridina varieties on aquabid that I might have to try out. One more question, do the sparkling gourami's get really aggressive when they spawn like other species of gourami/betta? Because with 6 I will probably get M/F and they sound like they breed easy. Thanks!
The aggressiveness of sparkling gourami depends upon the fish themselves and the other fish in the tank. I had my group in with hatchetfish, and when the males were guarding eggs they pecked the hatchets non-stop until I removed them. Then they went after any fish that came close, so the gourami got moved as i was not about to have my wild Nannostomus mortenthaleri harassed; they cost a fortune and are doing very well, spawning regularly and I now have mature fry in with the group.

On the water, the pH will usually lower due to natural biological processes, and yes, wood, dry leaves, moss helps a bit. If you start with all RO water and then add minerals, the pH should remain below 7 easily. Equilibrium does seem to raise the pH a bit. If you mix tap and RO instead of using Equilibrium, it will depend upon the KH and pH.

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Aggresion between the gouramis is fine though, right? They will most likely be the only ones in the tank besides shrimp. My water at home has a ph of 8.2 and a kh of 10. I will probably just add equilibrium to RO. That would be pretty cool if they spawned! Thanks!
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Aggresion between the gouramis is fine though, right? They will most likely be the only ones in the tank besides shrimp. My water at home has a ph of 8.2 and a kh of 10. I will probably just add equilibrium to RO. That would be pretty cool if they spawned! Thanks!
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Yes. I am much less bothered by normal aggression within a species, as they are designed this way. But when we combine species in an aquarium that in the wild would never encounter each other, aggression to another species can cause severe stress.

Either way with the water will work. To save money, mixing tap and RO to obtain water with a suitable GH would be my first choice. But if that doesn't reduce the KH sufficiently to allow the pH to lower at least below 7, then RO solely with Equilibrium to raise the GH to maybe 4 dGH (only needed for plants) is fine.

In soft acidic water this species will readily spawn. It spawns in more basic water too. Lots of floating plants, they remain close to the surface and a thick cover of floating plants is good. Lower plants that require minimal light work best under this, say crypts, Java Fern, Java Moss on wood.

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Ok first, thanks a ton for all of your help! So would 6 sparkling gouramis be fine in the ten gallon with some Neocaridina Heteropoda shrimps of some color variant? Six just sort of seems like a lot, but I might be wrong. I will make sure and have ample floating plants. I'm getting really exited for this tank!
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Ok first, thanks a ton for all of your help! So would 6 sparkling gouramis be fine in the ten gallon with some Neocaridina Heteropoda shrimps of some color variant? Six just sort of seems like a lot, but I might be wrong. I will make sure and have ample floating plants. I'm getting really exited for this tank!
I would probably limit them to 5, 2 males and 3 females being best, but as the small size they are usually seen in stores just get 5. I had five in my 33g, which is 3-feet length, and the males (2) got in each other's way regularly, but with all that space they were not damaged.

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Ok, sounds good. I am sort of new to keeping gouramis, so I am a little unsure about sexing them. Do males have a pointed dorsal fin and females are rounded? Thanks!
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