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post #11 of 57 Old 02-08-2011, 06:22 PM Thread Starter
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You ask how many. If otos, a group of 5-6 would work. Plants would be beneficial as Kym mentioned [they will clean algae off the glass, or any surface for that matter if they can get to it].

If BN pleco, as you have space, you could have more than 1. Males are territorial, but in a 125g there is space. You do need wood though, and it has to be real, not fake, as wood is a part of their essential diet. This holds for most pleco species. Also, they need a refuge spot, like being able to get under a chunk of wood or in a wood tunnel, and each pleco needs this sort of "home." And divide up the surface of the substrate with these chunks of wood so they can establish their individual territory around them.

Some pleco species can be quite a load on the tank, they produce a lot of waste. The larger ones mostly do this.

We have species profiles here, and the afore-mentioned fish are included. Second tab from the left in the blue bar across the top of the page, and they are under the Catfish section.

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I have bristlenoses, they are a very nice fish but another fish I have, which is great at eating algae, and gets along with bristles, is my a Royal Whiptail Catfish. He looks a little bit like a Farlowella, what I really wanted but can't find locally. My Whiptail is a very peaceful critter, I have seen him and the bristlenose side by side for lengthy periods of time. They don't seem to mind each other being in each other's space. I also keep otos in this same tank, this tank has zero algae, they all do their jobs very well.
In a 125 you definitely have room for an assortment of algae eaters. As Byron states, you'll need driftwood. Even my otos like hanging out on the driftwood too. Otos and plecos also do just fine together.

You too I guess.

LOL! I am so teasing. It has been a really long sad day. Sometimes I really hate my job. Hey ~ I think my fish are getting bigger, Kym!

So I must have driftwood? We don't get along, driftwood and I. It turns my water all tea colored....

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post #12 of 57 Old 02-08-2011, 06:25 PM Thread Starter
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Hey Guys ~ On my other site, they said that common plecos don't need driftwood. And you could use bogwood, or was it dogwood...lol! I forget. Instead of the driftwood.

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Are the ones you mentioned Common?

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Boil the driftwoods to minimize the tannins leached.

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Yeah. That never worked for me....

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It will take years for driftwoods to leach tannins.lol

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Hey Guys ~ On my other site, they said that common plecos don't need driftwood. And you could use bogwood, or was it dogwood...lol! I forget. Instead of the driftwood.

Thoughts?

Are the ones you mentioned Common?
over time the tea colors will go away, but some fish like the chemicals that are in those colors.

Common plecos, depending on which ones are common where you are, either get 1 or 2 feet long and rip plants out of the ground and will redecorate, but they are very beautiful and nice to watch. A 1 or 2 foot plec in a 125 gallon tank shouldnt really be a problem though, it might actually be nice.

I would go with bristle nose plecos, they stay smaller, they are a little more sensitive but are worth it.

It really depends on what you like.

Dont get zebra plecos for algae, they are more carnivorous. ( i think)

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Really? I remember there were quite a few members on my discus site that put in their newly bought and boiled driftwood and posted about the tea color of their water.

Didn't take years.

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Hey Guys ~ On my other site, they said that common plecos don't need driftwood. And you could use bogwood, or was it dogwood...lol! I forget. Instead of the driftwood.

Thoughts?

Are the ones you mentioned Common?
As long as it is real wood, doesn't matter. Lupin was correct on the tannins aspect. Some wood is worse than other types for tannins. I use the dark almost black wood, some call it ironwood, some mangrove root...initially new there will be some tannin colouration but much, much less than wood like Mopani; and if you buy it soaked (like from a fish tank) it will have basically leeched out, the noticeable discolouration I mean, wood as Lupin said always leeches tannins underwater but after the initial bout you don't see discolouration.

On the pleco, no, we are not talking "common" pleco. Pleco (short for plecostomus) is the common term used for many species of suckermouth catfish. The common pleco gets large, 18 inches. Some species get much larger than that. Others much smaller. The Bristlenose pleco is usually smaller, under 4-5 inches. We have this one in our profiles, under Catfish. There are a couple other types too. Lots of info there.

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over time the tea colors will go away, but some fish like the chemicals that are in those colors.

Common plecos, depending on which ones are common where you are, either get 1 or 2 feet long and rip plants out of the ground and will redecorate, but they are very beautiful and nice to watch. A 1 or 2 foot plec in a 125 gallon tank shouldnt really be a problem though, it might actually be nice.

I would go with bristle nose plecos, they stay smaller, they are a little more sensitive but are worth it.

It really depends on what you like.

Dont get zebra plecos for algae, they are more carnivorous. ( i think)
There is NO ripping out plants and redecorating in my tank. lol! Frontosas were the worst! So you are saying that don't really need driftwood?

Tell me ~ does the signs on the tanks of the plecos actually state "common" I am making a list of all of everyone's suggestions.

Would you QT these lil guys?

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As long as it is real wood, doesn't matter. Lupin was correct on the tannins aspect. Some wood is worse than other types for tannins. I use the dark almost black wood, some call it ironwood, some mangrove root...initially new there will be some tannin colouration but much, much less than wood like Mopani; and if you buy it soaked (like from a fish tank) it will have basically leeched out.

On the pleco, no, we are not talking "common" pleco. Pleco (short for plecostomus) is the common term used for many species of suckermouth catfish. The common pleco gets large, 18 inches. Some species get much larger than that. Others much smaller. The Bristlenose pleco is usually smaller, under 4-5 inches. We have this one in our profiles, under Catfish. There are a couple other types too. Lots of info there.
You are so informative, Byron! I love reading your posts. Okay. So ~ I really don't want a big pleco. I have seen that they are poop machines in my friend's tanks But they are nice!

Off to read more in the profiles!

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