08-13-2009, 08:39 PM
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If you want an algae eater, don't get otos. They are too difficult, and there are much easier alternatives, ie a Bristlenose Pleco. They can even protect themselves against the angel if worse comes to worst. Also, a farlowella is a cool catfish, they are sort of oddballs. I considered getting one at one point, but went with a pleco instead...
I would also recommend cories, but this is only because I have some. A small troupe of 4-5 would probably be ignored by the angel, and as well as this, their dorsal fin can "lock" in place if something attempts to eat them, effectively doubling their width... they are very cute and playful as well.
Silver dollars... no. If you look a little into them, their size alone is pushing it for your tank, and on top of that they are active schoolers and would in no way be happy in a 30g.
I don't know if you should add another angel to your tank. He will be stressed from switching over, and not up to the full size of your current one I would guess. So, he might get beaten up a bit...
I don't know what to tell you to get other than, "catfish"! However, I am really only knowledgeable about NA/SA fish (catfishes, cichlids and tetras!), and not so much the ones from Asia. So, there are probably a lot of choices out there, in the barb/loach category, outside of my "expertise". Good luck.
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08-14-2009, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Michael967  Byron, those whiptails look pretty neat. They're a little different than the usual algae eater. I think I'd probably get the otos though, haha.
I used to have three angelfish and then two of them paired up. They constantly fought the other one, so I sold it and eventually sold the female angelfish too. I was tired of all the eggs every couple of weeks. I don't think I want another angelfish.
Charlie, I looked up the silver dollars after I posted my last message and found out they were better in schools and were pretty active... I knew then my tank was not going to work, haha. Oh well.
A lot of people have told me that corys would be perfect, but I'm not really into schooling fish anymore. I was so annoyed with my rasboras always swimming in place in a huge pack all day.
I'm pretty sure if I got another smaller style cichlid, there would be several fights a day, right? | As someone once wrote, a cichlid is a cichlid... Personally, I would go with a group of contrasting fish, like corys, loaches 9there are some smaller and peaceful species, avoid the larger and aggressive ones) to add some quiet activity that won't stress out the angel. But I take it you want a single or maybe two largish fish to match (and be compatible with) the angel. I'm going to leave this for the angel experts to comment, as I'm so far from when I last had angels I'm not the best to be answering this question.
Byron.
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08-14-2009, 01:53 PM
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Byron, I know what you mean. Cichlids are just blah most of the time. I haven't really seen many that I've liked, except for the Rams and those type, but you'd have to order those at the stores. A lot of people are into the Convicts, Jaguars, Flowerhorns, and Oscars, so they stock their tanks with those. I'd like to have something a little different from the angel, but most are schooling fish and like you said, I'd like to have just 2-3 fish.
rgs1975, I've heard of their names being Denison, but they're mostly called roseline barbs or roseline sharks at the fish stores around here. They're the closest things to looking like a shark that won't be territorial and bully the other fish, haha.
Hey again, Kymmie, haha. I've always thought all of the ram types have looked pretty cool, but yeah, I'm not sure how they'd get along with the angel.
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08-14-2009, 02:54 PM
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I really think rams would be fine with angels. My rams are little "angels". LOL
Angels & rams occupy different stratas of the water column so no issue on territory there. I've seen my loaches bombard my rams on their quest to get to the food first and the rams simply tolerate the loaches rude behavior.  If it weren't for the large fast swimming school of Denison Barbs in my tank I'd probably have some angels.
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08-14-2009, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael967 Byron, I know what you mean. Cichlids are just blah most of the time. I haven't really seen many that I've liked, except for the Rams and those type, but you'd have to order those at the stores. A lot of people are into the Convicts, Jaguars, Flowerhorns, and Oscars, so they stock their tanks with those. I'd like to have something a little different from the angel, but most are schooling fish and like you said, I'd like to have just 2-3 fish.
rgs1975, I've heard of their names being Denison, but they're mostly called roseline barbs or roseline sharks at the fish stores around here. They're the closest things to looking like a shark that won't be territorial and bully the other fish, haha.
Hey again, Kymmie, haha. I've always thought all of the ram types have looked pretty cool, but yeah, I'm not sure how they'd get along with the angel. | Actually Michael, I was thinking along different lines. Not that cichlids are just plain fish, no--but a cichlid is by nature somewhat aggressive (more or less so depending upon a number of factors, like the species, breeding, tank conditions, etc). My intended meaning was that any cichlid is going to share this trait, generally speaking.
And as kymmie said, the Bolivian Ram is one that can be quite peaceful on its own (in my experience) or in large enough quarters so it can do its thing. This species is believed to live in isolation in their native habitat, only meeting up at spawning time, when the males behave like cichlid males towards each other.
Keeping one on its own as I have for many years, it is comical to watch it at feeding time. It primarily feeds from the substrate, so when the pellet/tablet food goes in, there it is with the many corys, aspidoras and whiptail...and the ram gets annoyed at these others barging in (corys can be very determined) and routinely pokes at them, but of course to little avail; by the time it turns around, 2 or 3 others are pecking at its tablet, so we have a repeat. Fish are fun to observe.
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