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HI, new member going to LFS today..SOMEONE PLEASE RESPOND!
Old 08-22-2007, 07:56 PM   #11
 
Ok I'll probably regret buying the fish I got today but we'll see.

I decided to keep my red eye tetra and I bought some buenos aires (spelling?) tetra to go with them.

I realllly wanted to get long fin danios they had but I was worried that an angelfish would eat them but the LFS guy said the danios would be too quick for the angel...I think not.

I had my eyes also on a long-fin rosy barb but it was the only one in the tank. Those definitely would have been my choice but I'm too impatient to wait for the next shipment haha.

Hmm I also saw a green severum I liked and I saw the kissing gourami (for a very good price) which I managed to hold myself back from buying.

Now the problem is I have two kinds of gray fish, hmmmm now what? (Not that I'm going to add anymore anytime soon but what would you add later?) Angel, gouramis, SA cichlid, or what?
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Old 08-25-2007, 05:23 PM   #12
 
comments anyone?
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Old 08-25-2007, 05:29 PM   #13
 
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No longfinned fish, and that includes all gouramis and Angels, with Red-Eyes. Pad your Red Eve School out to 15 or 20, and get a shoal or regular rosy barbs. Then put in 5 Yoyo loaches. You will not be sorry with that approach.

Alternately, if you have hard water, and you don't want to mess around with driftwood, keep some of the platies, still pad out your red-eye school, and get some Firemouths and a syno cat of some sort. (Never been too clear on a good hardwater catfish, but some sort of bottom feeder is key IMNSHO to a well balanced tank.)
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Old 08-25-2007, 09:18 PM   #14
 
20 red eyes plus rosy barbs? wouldn't that be considered overstocked?

How many red eyes would you put with 6-8 buenos aires tetra and 1-2 severums (or in place of the severums could I have 2 convicts in witht the tetra?)
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Old 08-25-2007, 09:24 PM   #15
 
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20 red eyes plus rosy barbs? wouldn't that be considered overstocked?

How many red eyes would you put with 6-8 buenos aires tetra and 1-2 severums (or in place of the severums could I have 2 convicts in witht the tetra?)
Not in our book. Most tetras contributed very little bioload in comparison with most other fish. Your 55g will actually fit even more than 50 neons but not where sevs are concerned.

No convict cichlids in your tank! They breed like rabbits and at spawning stage, they will very likely wreak havoc and kill their tankmates. They're already nasty enough without even spawning.
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Old 08-26-2007, 08:54 AM   #16
 
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20 red eyes plus rosy barbs? wouldn't that be considered overstocked?

How many red eyes would you put with 6-8 buenos aires tetra and 1-2 severums (or in place of the severums could I have 2 convicts in witht the tetra?)
The problem is that the real key to maximizing carrying capacity is plants. Plants+Buenos Aires Tetras = Fat Buenos Aires tetras and no plants. So let's figure this in terms of bioload capacity in Gallons: A 55 gallon tank, not planted, has 55 available gallons of bioload. Severums get up to 8", 2 of them are 16, double that for being big fish, and then round up to 35. So that leaves you with 20 gallons of carrying capacity. BA Tetras get up to 3", so 6 of them will take up just about 20 gallons of capacity (Lower bioload because they're standard shaped tetras, higher because they're both herbivorous = more poop and aggressive for tetras, so 1"/gallon works). That leaves you with zilch. Skipping the BAs and sticking with the Red-Eyes, you could go with 10 to 15 red eyes with a pair of Sevs in a 55.

Personally, if I were going to keep a pair of big Cichlids in a 55, I'd skip the tetras and put in three hoplo cats.
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