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post #11 of 16 Old 07-26-2011, 03:18 PM
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On a side note, I recommend buy all 6 at one time. I bought mine in groups of 3 that lead to territorial problems (fin nipping) that has now led to Ich. If you buy them at once however its alot of bioload introduced into the tank at one time but can help curve fin nipping IMO.

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Hmm.. doing all at once can help to reduce territorial problems. Black skirts are normally fin nippers to soem extent though, stress, such as being placed in a new environment can encourage this. I'm not sure how long you have had your black skirts Metalarm but this should pass in a couple days. With the fish having fin rot and now ich I would suspect they were already sick and your fish were attacking the sick ones, which is normal for pretty much any fish.
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post #12 of 16 Old 07-26-2011, 03:35 PM
The fin nipping has sinced stopped as you said. It only went on for about week, however I still see them chasing each other from time to time, but nothing violent. I'm pretty sure it was a territorial problem based on there actions/behavior. They seemed healthy when I got them, I believe the Ich came from the open wounds they had from fin nipping. BTW, there a way to tell if fish have been dyed based on store tags, or do you need prior knowledge before buying them?

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post #13 of 16 Old 07-26-2011, 03:53 PM
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Ick, to my knowledge at least is carried by virtually all fish. Stress alone(open wounds certainly dont help either) can lower the immune system enough allowing it to attach to fish and multiply.

As to knowing if fish are dyed, no theres not really a method to tell. Some things to watch out for though are neon colors. Most of the time the fish is otherwise white or even clear to the point of being see through. So if you see a white or clear fish with neon coloring(usually, at least in North America, it's a single neon color) it's probably dyed. The most common ones are the skirt ones(Black Widow Tetra), which go by fruit names such as Blueberry, strawberry, raspberry or peach. There are also "Painted Glass' fish. These are either Triangle Tetras ( I think thats the name) or Glass Catfish. You can try asking the store employees, but if they say they are not dyed dont take thier word for it. Some will lie others honestly dont realize it.

Heres a link to another thread with some more information on possible dyed fish.

http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/f...h-breed-75836/

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post #14 of 16 Old 07-28-2011, 01:17 AM Thread Starter
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How many of the "Fruit Tetra" do you have? Black Widow Tetra as they are known should be in groups of 6 at least. Not having the comfort of a group can cause stress and frustration and make them more aggresive. Instead of getting more fruits however I would get Black Skirt Tetra or White Skirt tetra. These are the same fish, just not dyed.
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On a side note, I recommend buy all 6 at one time. I bought mine in groups of 3 that lead to territorial problems (fin nipping) that has now led to Ich. If you buy them at once however its alot of bioload introduced into the tank at one time but can help curve fin nipping IMO.

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thx....didnt know they were dyed. its the first time ive ever seen them & they are so colorful.


i bought all fruit tetra from a local pet store at the same time & from the same tank (except 1).

6ea - blue (1 died)
5ea - pink
2ea - yellow

also got:

6 ea - serpae tetra
1 ea - albino catfish
1 ea - emerald catfish
2 ea - african butterfly fish
5 ea - live plants
2 ea - snails (about 1-1 1/4 inch dia)


bought 1 fruit tetra from wal-mart cause it was a color i didnt have.

1 ea - green fruit tetra
1 ea - some kind of spotted catfish (kinda short & stubby at first but now its huge!)
7ea - neon tetra (3 died)
3 ea - tetra (looks like neon except clear w/ orange stripe) dont know the name of it.
3 ea - algae eaters

7 ea - some kind of top water brightly colored fish about an 1 1/4" long. looked kinda like guppies but without the big tails. they were in 3 colors, bright green, bright yellow & bright orange. they had subtle stripes running the full length. no one could tell me what they were. like i said they never ventured down in the tank...just schooled around at the top. anyone know what they are?

i love fish...but i don't like to eat them
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I posted a response in your other thread so I wont say much but something else just occured to me about the fruit tetras... the colors dont last. In about 6 months they will be back to mostly white with perhaps only a tint of the dyed coloring.
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I posted a response in your other thread so I wont say much but something else just occured to me about the fruit tetras... the colors dont last. In about 6 months they will be back to mostly white with perhaps only a tint of the dyed coloring.
thx, i saw that. link to my other thread: http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/m...18/#post754300

im gonna try and see if i can figure out what those other fish are. if anyone knows please hit me up. i really need to take pics of my tank and fish. unfortunally the last fish i mentioned (7 ea brightly colored top dwellers) died from fin nipping.

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