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post #1 of 25 Old 07-12-2011, 04:48 PM Thread Starter
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Help with stocking my new 29g planted tank!

So I've set up my very first planted tank. Right now I have quite a few plants in it, some wisteria, anacharis, needle-leaf ludwigia, bacopa, some micro sword, an amazon sword and a java fern.

The tank is a 29g Red sea max Red Sea MAX | The Concept

My water is sitting at about 8.3 gDH and the pH is around 7.2.

Im using dip sticks to measure pH though and I've heard they aren't as accurate.. so I'll get a new kit soon and test.

I have no fish as of yet.. the tank has been up and running a little over a week now with the plants being in there about 5 days.

I need some ideas for fish stocking. So far I know I want some shoaling fish, 1 or 2 groups. I dont like platys, mollies or guppies. Id like to also have some algae eaters of some sort. I know ottos require a stable tank so maybe sometime down the road I'd be able to get these.. any ideas in the meantime though?

As far as my tank goes, since it is still very new, how many fish should I put in at first?
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post #2 of 25 Old 07-12-2011, 10:47 PM
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If your looking to do a fish in cycle to establish your tank, TigerBarbs are good shoaling fish and hardy so they could handle establishing your tank ... figure around 6.

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post #3 of 25 Old 07-12-2011, 11:48 PM
plants remove need to wait while the tank cycles... of course if you have enough... I would get a school of as many neons or harqlein rasbora

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post #4 of 25 Old 07-13-2011, 12:53 AM
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I don't agree with either of the above posts; first of all, tiger barbs tend to be quite aggressive once established so, not a good starting fish; secondly, harlequin rasboras are not a very hardy fish and don't make a good starting fish either. However, there are many tetras that ARE good starting fish. You have a large enough tank to handle Red eye tetras, for instance. Neon tetras are also a good starting fish. After you get the first 5 or 6 shoaling fish going you can probably add something more fun like the harlequin rasbora or black skirt tetra.
Once your tank is cycled with those fish you can add some more community aquarium type fish and I would be happy to help you out with that process as would many other people on this site.
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post #5 of 25 Old 07-13-2011, 07:29 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the suggestion. I really wanted to lean towards some tetras. How are glowlight tetras? Ive read the fish profile on them and I think my PH might be a little high?

Also If i'm not mistaken... I'm doing the silent cycle where you add in plenty of plants right from the get go that will eat up all my NH3 and allow me to add a few fish from the get go.. am I mistaken here?

So a good start would be maybe 6 tetras of some sort? If At a later date I wanted to up that to maybe 8 or 9 of the same species would they all get along or will they not accept new members to their shoal? Sorry if that is a silly question!
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Thanks for the suggestion. I really wanted to lean towards some tetras. How are glowlight tetras? Ive read the fish profile on them and I think my PH might be a little high?

Also If i'm not mistaken... I'm doing the silent cycle where you add in plenty of plants right from the get go that will eat up all my NH3 and allow me to add a few fish from the get go.. am I mistaken here?

So a good start would be maybe 6 tetras of some sort? If At a later date I wanted to up that to maybe 8 or 9 of the same species would they all get along or will they not accept new members to their shoal? Sorry if that is a silly question!
I'd say glowlights are a good choice. They were the first fish I ever got in fact! pH shouldn't be a problem as they are relatively adaptable.

6 is a great number to start with. Adding more at a later date won't be a problem and should help to further even out any aggression between them. I find that glowlights and neons can be slightly aggressive towards one another even in shoals of 8+ like I have and that it's normal.

yes, a silent cycle is possible with lots of plants. The tank should be heavily planted to start with. I'd give the plants a week or so to settle to be on the safe side and then stock the tank slowly over a long period, perhaps starting with 6 glowlights initially. If you haven't already, I'd read the planted tank stickies at the top of the Aquarium Plants section of the forum to make sure your plants are going to grow well and use up the ammonia from the fish.
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post #7 of 25 Old 07-13-2011, 10:31 AM
6 is a great number but i think the more the better it looks, So how was I wrong, and plants do remove the cycling effect. No tprocess. One still needs to grow the prokayatic bacteria I believe it was and that is why we cycle.

38 gallon :
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4 Pangio Kuhli
12 Hemmigrammus Bleheri
2 Botia Lohachata
1 Botia Straita
1 Ancistrus Sp.
6 Poecilia Reticulata




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post #8 of 25 Old 07-13-2011, 11:56 AM
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With a GH of 8 I would expect the same or less for KH, so pH will tend to lower as the tank matures. This will suite soft water fish like the tetra, rasbora, and many others. Avoid livebearers, they would not fare well in soft water and you said you didn't want them anyway, so that's good. And I agree to forget Tiger Barb, in a 30g to be "healthy" they should be on their own in a group of 8-12. That's fine if that is what you want, but if you want more fish species, please forget the Tigers. And Serpae Tetra too before you come to them, very similarly aggressive fish.

We have fish profiles, second tab from the left in the blue bar across the top, you can search possible fish there. Characins (tetra, etc) and Cyprinids (rasbora, etc) would be the main categories for a 29g, plus catfish. Info on numbers needed (for shoaling fish), compatibility, water preferences, etc. are in the respective profile.

With a 29g, the options are so numerous. Remember the smaller the mature fish, the more you can have, and several groups of small tetra/cyprinids can be quite interesting and beautiful in a ploanted 30g tank.

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Thanks for the help! I've been looking at the profiles and I'm just having such a hard time deciding. I really do like the glowlight tetra though!

Im not interested in having large fish and would prefer multiple shoals. Would glowlight terra and harlequin rasboras do okay? Also how many of each would be good?

Also for bottom feeders would I have room for Ottos?

What about corys?

Ahh this is such a hard decision! I guess I still have time though..
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Thanks for the help! I've been looking at the profiles and I'm just having such a hard time deciding. I really do like the glowlight tetra though!

Im not interested in having large fish and would prefer multiple shoals. Would glowlight terra and harlequin rasboras do okay? Also how many of each would be good?

Also for bottom feeders would I have room for Ottos?

What about corys?

Ahh this is such a hard decision! I guess I still have time though..
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Glowlights and rasbora would be fine. I would suggest a group of 7-8 of each. You have room for another group or even 2 more, depending upon which species. Perhaps something for the upper level? Glowlights tend to remain in the lower third, and rasbora about the middle or upper half.

As for corys, they are also shoaling and a group of 5 of one species works well, or if you want 2 or 3 species (you have room) then 3 of each species would be my suggested minimum.

Otos can be difficult, and I would not acquire them until the tank is established (after a couple of months). If you really like them as fish, fine; but if you are only think algae-eating, I would not. They need algae at first or they often starve. This is explained in our profile.

For an interesting "odd" fish, a Whiptail Catfish is ideal; very peaceful, small, interesting--and if algae occurs it will eat it, same as otos.

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