Help! My African Dwarf Frog & Oto are in a Deathlock!

Chesherca

This is the most insane thing I've ever heard of! Hopefully FishMonger comes up with something!

Aoibhell

I think the frog might be dead. I've made that wrong assumption many times today already, but he hasn't come up for air in awhile.. not sure how often they require air..

Chesherca

In THIS situation, I don't know, but they can stay down normally for 3 hours +
He's been under a LOT of stress, though - and probably pain, so. . . I have no idea.

fish monger

I have sent a private message to a person who breeds ADFs on another site.

Chesherca

*crosses fingers for an easy solution*

I think we NEED people who know more about ottos. . . Where is BYRON!!?

Olympia

Have you tried squeezing the frog on either side of it's mouth to open it?
Otherwise I'd find something small and not sharp to pry the frogs mouth open.. Try and see if one person can keep the frogs mouth open while another takes something and pushes the oto out... Like a toothpick kind of thing but not sharp in any way.. If you have some nail cleaning metal tools, usually the ends of them are smooth and round.
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Aoibhell

The problem with that is that we think the otto is hooked onto the inside of the frog's mouth, so it wouldn't matter how much wider we could get the frog's mouth open.

Uptdate: Frog & fish are still quite alive.

Chesherca

Yes. . . but Olympia is right, MAYBE if you could get something in to POKE at the otto with (without HURTING either of them) he might just. . . let go?

At least they're both alive. My goodness!

Olympia

Well my thought was more try and pry under the Otos mouth, even if a tiny air pocket gets through the suction would be lost immediately.
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fish monger

My contact said that they had already sent you a private message. Sounds like your husband already tried the technique suggested. I would never have imagined that something like this would happen (except for in my household). It looks like neither the Oto nor the ADF have any control of the situation at this point. Wait and see is all you can do. Sorry you have to go through this with our "relaxing" hobby.