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Old 03-18-2011, 02:46 AM   #11
 
I have fancy guppies that are very definitely bigger than 1.5 inches, and I'm not including the tails, so the tail type doesn't matter. I have female guppies that are 2 - 2.5" without their tails. The males are smaller, more like the 1.5, though I have one that is closer to 2", again without counting the tails. With the tails, my males are 2" or more, and some of my females are about 3". They are, however, the largest guppies I've seen. When I was a kid, I never saw a male more than 1.5" or a female more than 2" and most were even smaller ... but that was a million years ago when most guppies were still wild-type, or just beginning to be hybridized into today's fancy guppies.

As for cycling and stability - When I said smaller tanks are harder to cycle and keep stable, I was talking about tanks in the 1-3g range, not 5g. I currently have 5 tanks - 47g, 14g, 2 @ 10g, and a 3g. The only one I have had difficulty keeping stable is the 3g. Once cycled, the others have been no problem. I guess our experiences have been different.
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Old 03-18-2011, 03:55 PM   #12
 
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I have fancy guppies that are very definitely bigger than 1.5 inches, and I'm not including the tails, so the tail type doesn't matter. I have female guppies that are 2 - 2.5" without their tails. The males are smaller, more like the 1.5, though I have one that is closer to 2", again without counting the tails. With the tails, my males are 2" or more, and some of my females are about 3". They are, however, the largest guppies I've seen. When I was a kid, I never saw a male more than 1.5" or a female more than 2" and most were even smaller ... but that was a million years ago when most guppies were still wild-type, or just beginning to be hybridized into today's fancy guppies.

As for cycling and stability - When I said smaller tanks are harder to cycle and keep stable, I was talking about tanks in the 1-3g range, not 5g. I currently have 5 tanks - 47g, 14g, 2 @ 10g, and a 3g. The only one I have had difficulty keeping stable is the 3g. Once cycled, the others have been no problem. I guess our experiences have been different.
I have never seen an aquaria kept fancy guppy get larger than 1.5"...as far as males go, and I think she said both of hers are male, and I would assume they are because most like them best for their colors. As far as different kinds of tails, I havent even seen any of those and dont keep them. I deal strictly with fancy and deltas. Deltas are a larger hybrid of fancies, my sunrise tequila guppies are deltas, and they are pushing 2 inches, which is their expected max size.

I would expect wild guppies to be larger, as most fish taken from the wild and kept in aquaria do not reach their maximum size they would and do reach in the wild. Nor do they live as long.

I have kept guppies since I was a child too myself, and have never experienced a guppy that large. When I got into the deltas, I was shocked at how large they got, as I had never seen a 2 inch guppy.

I assume on this subject we will have to agree to disagree, as I am sure maximum guppy size is up for debate, and there is always exceptions to the rule.

As for the cycling of small tanks...that is TOTALLY up to experience, as some have issues either way, that one is just my opinion. The smallest tank I ever had was a 1 gallon, never had an issue with it after it cycled. Currently I have my 5 gallon so stable it scares me (in all honesty its more like a 4 gallon because I have an internal filter...tetra whisper 10i...and the water level has to be an inch below the filter lip for it to filter properly, thus taking proabably a good whole gallon out of my tank after considering the space for the filter drop already needed).
My 29 is stable too, but I think the issue with larger tanks is that the filters made for them (referring to HOBs) arent made to keep up with that tank size, and I believe going up a size is needed. Example being most 30 gallon HOB filters do up to 150 gph, when I have learned that it needs to do 200 gph to run correctly for the tank...thus the reason I am battling an endless battle with cloudiness in my 29 gallon until I get paid again so I can switch the horrible Marineland BioWheel P.150 with an AquaClear 200/50. Sorry...I totally went in to babble mode, lol.

I will say that my love for guppies is making me very mad! lol As I had hoped to only keep a few in my smaller tank and keep more exotic fish in my other tank, but some how ended up having almost the entire tank dedicated to guppies! I went from 4, to 6, to 9! Not that I havent had that many before or more, but it wasnt intended to go that far this time. Same with the mollies...wasnt suppose to have any, now I have 3 different variations of mollies. lol

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Old 03-26-2011, 03:03 PM   #13
 
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With the 2 fancy guppies...they actually only get to 1.5 inches. Two inches for a guppy makes it one of the larger specialty breeds, like the deltas.

White clouds, again, are cold water, so the way you are handling your tank now is fine for them...but not the guppies. Guppies MUST have a heater, hun. They need at least 76F temps. Colder temps is asking for issues, including but not limited to ich, funguses, bacterias...and the colder water stresses them out, causes their colors to fade, and weakens their immune system making them twice as vulnerable to those diseases.

To each his own on water change percentages, however, many will agree that smaller more frequent water changes are more beneficial over time. Even in a small tank, 20% once a week, or at times when nitrites and ammonia show up, is effective.

I have never had an issue cycling a small tank and keeping it consistant with water parameters. My 5 gallon, once cycled, has been perfect without issues in fluctuation. I think just the opposite, the larger the tank, the harder it is to keep it under control. Just goes to show how much fish keeping really is a matter of opinion (outside of the science/chemistry that goes into water parameters).

By the way, those ghost shrimp, not such a great idea. I recently discovered that they can be aggressive, and require 5 gallons of water per ghost shrimp in order to make their own territories. They also can eat smaller fish.

An idea...leave the ghost shrimp and the white clouds in the unheated 2.5 gallon...and get a 5 or 10 gallon tank set up (with a heater!) for the guppies. Even in a 5 gallon, you can have 3-5 fancy guppies safely and happily.

I fully believe your guppies color issue is from the lack of heater in the tank.

Keep me posted, and let me know what you decide to do, or if you need help figuring out other solutions. :)



Hi,

I actually think that it is a half black tux guppy, and the light affects his color. I'll put the light on in the morning and he looks more black, and then after a little while of the light being on he looks more half black. I only have 1 ghost shrimp and he doesnt bother the fish and the fish doesnt bother him. I haven't been doing a lot of water changes because the past 2 weeks I've had 0 Ammonia, 0 Nitrites, the hardness was good, and my p.h. was 7.7 which is good. They all are happy and look to be doing great.. I do a water change maybe twice a week, like 25% of the water.. that's it. I am getting a bigger tank in a couple of months and I plan on moving the guppies to it.
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Old 03-26-2011, 03:28 PM   #14
 
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I think I might be able to resolve this issue on guppy size.

In pet stores and community tanks where guppies are mixed sex, they average 1 to 1.5 inches... Once they begin mating their growth slows, and in the female's case, nearly stops.

If they don't mate, and are fed high-protein diets (like they would get in the wild from insect larvae and such) then they do get much larger.

Guppies do like vegetable matter, and even eat algae... I'm still certain most guppies don't get enough protein (I'm talking about live and frozen foods, not flake.)


As for the original topic, I would hope we don't get sidetracked, since there are good points on both sides.

Tank is too small, needs a heater (Heaters are cheap, they sell some for betta bowls that only raise the temp a few degrees. One of those would be fine.), needs to cut down on the ammonia.... Plants will help in the mean time. Get something like duckweed or amazon frogbit. I bet it would do fine without extra fertilisers, and would help with the ammonia problem until you can go get a new tank.
I realise most people can't go out and buy a tank on a whim, so plants will help for now. They also will make the fish feel more at home, so even if the stress is from an unknown source, it might still resolve the problem.

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Old 03-27-2011, 12:17 AM   #15
 
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I think I might be able to resolve this issue on guppy size.

In pet stores and community tanks where guppies are mixed sex, they average 1 to 1.5 inches... Once they begin mating their growth slows, and in the female's case, nearly stops.

If they don't mate, and are fed high-protein diets (like they would get in the wild from insect larvae and such) then they do get much larger.

Guppies do like vegetable matter, and even eat algae... I'm still certain most guppies don't get enough protein (I'm talking about live and frozen foods, not flake.)


As for the original topic, I would hope we don't get sidetracked, since there are good points on both sides.

Tank is too small, needs a heater (Heaters are cheap, they sell some for betta bowls that only raise the temp a few degrees. One of those would be fine.), needs to cut down on the ammonia.... Plants will help in the mean time. Get something like duckweed or amazon frogbit. I bet it would do fine without extra fertilisers, and would help with the ammonia problem until you can go get a new tank.
I realise most people can't go out and buy a tank on a whim, so plants will help for now. They also will make the fish feel more at home, so even if the stress is from an unknown source, it might still resolve the problem.

Well I haven't had any ammonia in my tank for a couple weeks now.... My tank is stable and all my water parameters are perfect... I have 2 fancy tail guppies and one of them is much bigger than the other.. I would say the orange tailed one from the tip to tail is 2 inches and the yellow tailed one is 1.5, but the orange one is so much fatter and thicker lol... they are so cute and so happy.. i really love fancy tail guppies a lot.. they all get along so cute and swim around all over the tank.. im not looking to get any real plants, theres no ammonia in the tank, and i want to put a real plant in the tank when i get a bigger one which will be in about a month..
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