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post #1 of 6 Old 10-22-2009, 06:35 PM Thread Starter
gravel vacuum verses bottom feeder

hi i was wondering should i get bottom feeder or should i get the vacuum to clean the gravel its big problem didnt think it would be this messy guess i was wrong lol
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post #2 of 6 Old 10-22-2009, 07:37 PM
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Even if you have a bottom feeder, weekly gravel cleanings are needed. You may have less uneaten food, but there will still be plenty of fish poop to remove.
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post #3 of 6 Old 10-22-2009, 07:59 PM Thread Starter
darn oscar poops alot

65 gallon tank
1 oscar 7inch
1 firemouth 4inch
1 common pleco 6inch
1 long finned tiger oscar 3inch

45 gallon tank
2 rainbow tetra 3inch
2 skirt tetra 2inch
1 blue ram 2 inch
1 clown pleco 2 inch

15 gallon tank
1 sailfin pleco 2 inch
1 electric blue jd 2 half inch
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post #4 of 6 Old 10-23-2009, 11:24 AM
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I think the answer depends on what your substrate is...if you have gravel, then you definitely need to vacuum. I have EcoComplete and live plants (mostly Anubias). I have seven cories which snuffle around looking for uneaten food. Whatever poop is not picked up by the filters just becomes part of the substrate....I've not vacuumed even once since putting in the EcoComplete several years ago, and my water is unbelievably clean, fish seem happy, and live long, long lives.
Maintenance consists of changing water (20%) every week or two, and squeezing out the sponges at that time.....nothing more, ever.

8) 30 gallon w/ Diamond Tetras and White Clouds, EcoComplete w/ Anubias and Cabomba, Eheim 2213 and 18 watts of lighting.

8) 55 gallon w/ Senegal Bichir and large Pleco, EcoComplete w/ Anubias, Eheim 2213, and 30 watts of lighting.

8) 75 gallon w/ Cardinal, Serpae and Black Skirt tetras, cories, danios, Pearl gouramis and yoyo loaches, EcoComplete heavily planted with Anubias, Eheim 2215, and 30 watts of lighting.
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post #5 of 6 Old 10-23-2009, 12:23 PM
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Bearing in mind that this is a cichlid setup, so the idea of plants taking care of the waste is kind of nullified.

And yes, unless you have discovered the world's first poop-eating fish, you will have to vacuum.
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post #6 of 6 Old 10-24-2009, 01:42 AM Thread Starter
carp eat poop but u got to catch them in detroit river lmao and what is a ecocomplete

65 gallon tank
1 oscar 7inch
1 firemouth 4inch
1 common pleco 6inch
1 long finned tiger oscar 3inch

45 gallon tank
2 rainbow tetra 3inch
2 skirt tetra 2inch
1 blue ram 2 inch
1 clown pleco 2 inch

15 gallon tank
1 sailfin pleco 2 inch
1 electric blue jd 2 half inch
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