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post #31 of 46 Old 02-27-2008, 09:28 AM
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i never knew that angelfish required so much territory...im glad i returned my pair( they were in a 30 gallon)

Also the glofish(zebra danios variety). ive never heard anything about them being treated inhumanlly..i was pretty sure their dna was changed with that they shouldnt have go through injections or anything of the sort (so their spawns shouldnt have any problems besides possibly inbreeding) Sorry if im wrong, was just kinda curious as thats one of my areas of interest(genetics that is)
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i never knew that angelfish required so much territory...im glad i returned my pair( they were in a 30 gallon)

Also the glofish(zebra danios variety). ive never heard anything about them being treated inhumanlly..i was pretty sure their dna was changed with that they shouldnt have go through injections or anything of the sort (so their spawns shouldnt have any problems besides possibly inbreeding) Sorry if im wrong, was just kinda curious as thats one of my areas of interest(genetics that is)
Why did you return your angels?
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post #33 of 46 Old 02-27-2008, 03:02 PM
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there are some fish called glo/highlight whatever that are just naturally bright and beautiful, but there are others that have been injected. i was extremely surprised to see pics like these when i searched the internet. i feel so bad for these fish but people still buy them because they look "pretty".







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post #34 of 46 Old 02-27-2008, 05:46 PM
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i never knew that angelfish required so much territory...im glad i returned my pair( they were in a 30 gallon)

Also the glofish(zebra danios variety). ive never heard anything about them being treated inhumanlly..i was pretty sure their dna was changed with that they shouldnt have go through injections or anything of the sort (so their spawns shouldnt have any problems besides possibly inbreeding) Sorry if im wrong, was just kinda curious as thats one of my areas of interest(genetics that is)
I'm pretty sure the ones you have, from their description, are the genetically altered ones. Just be careful - their fry are trademarked, so you cannot sell them.

I think you made the right choice by returning the abgelfish. IMHO, 30g is simply too small.
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post #35 of 46 Old 02-27-2008, 07:37 PM
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30g is to small but there should be around 15-20g per angelfish.

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3 Black Skirt Tetras
4 Angelfish (3 Marble, 1 Gold)
1 Glass Fish
2 Blue Sunset Gourami
3 African Dwarf Frog
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post #36 of 46 Old 02-28-2008, 02:13 PM
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how big of groups do angels *like* to be in? not how many can you fit in a certain size tank but what do they perfer?
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post #37 of 46 Old 02-28-2008, 02:20 PM
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well they can be in a big group but once 2 pair up they will turn on the others but if you get 1 male for every 3 females i think you will be good.

55 Gallon Aquarium
1 Black Kuhli Loach
3 Black Skirt Tetras
4 Angelfish (3 Marble, 1 Gold)
1 Glass Fish
2 Blue Sunset Gourami
3 African Dwarf Frog
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post #38 of 46 Old 02-28-2008, 09:25 PM
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I'm pretty sure the ones you have, from their description, are the genetically altered ones. Just be careful - their fry are trademarked, so you cannot sell them.
There is no trademark on fish fry if the adult fish are purchased or collected somewhere legally. Due to the number of those fish in the open market and the ease at which they breed on their own, there would be no way for someone to control all of the breeding around the world and force some kind of regulation that would prevent the sale of the fry. Think about this for a sec... danios are egg scattering fishes, meaning when they spawn you are looking at up to 100 fry at a time. Where would all of these fish go if not allowed to be sold? How would they stay in the hobby, and who would buy something that if it spawned they'd be stuck with all of the fry? That wouldn't be practial or realistic. If you legally own fish, any fry they might have are in the hands of the owner, and what to do with them is also entirely up to the owner.

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well they can be in a big group but once 2 pair up they will turn on the others but if you get 1 male for every 3 females i think you will be good.
1 male or 3 males, however many you have together, when 2 angels pair up, they will turn on the others. So, if you have 1 male and 3 females, once the male pairs with 1 female, the other 2 females are outsiders and subject to attack if they intrude on the pair's territory.

A good number to get is 2, 4, 6.... if you are sure of their sex (which can be very difficult to do in adults unless they spawn, and is near impossible in young angels) keep it in even numbers and don't crowd them.

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post #40 of 46 Old 02-29-2008, 01:57 PM
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how can you tell if it is a boy or girl?
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