This is going to be my 1st setup, chime in!

BillyVille

This is going to be for my Communty Tank. What do you think?

75 gallon tank and stand
Custom blue rock background with caves and tunnels
White gravel
Holey rock
Canister filter
300w heater
Reverse underground filter system
Live and fake flowers
Drift wood
Bubble wand
I know Im leaving something out but ohh well here is the fish list:


1 Boesemani Rainbow
1 Red Rainbow
1 Praecox Rainbow
2 Skunk Cory Cats
1 Candy Strip Pleco
6 Clown Loaches
3 Pink Glow Fish
3 Orange Glow Fish
4 Angel Fish
1 Swordtail

3 Ghost Shrimp
1 Red Crystal Shrimp
2 Dwarf Frogs


Is that toooo many fish or do I have room for more?!?

BillyVille

Im also wondering do I really need a pleco? I mean they dump alot of waste but they do help clean up, if I ditch the pleco could I add some silver dollars?

fish_4_all

Well, I think that once all the fish get full sizes it will be way overcrowded. The clown loaches like groups but get very large. The angels will too and will eventually eat smaller fish. The shrimp would not last long with those fish either.

Might be a good idea to get some more replies about which fish to get as the list seems a little much.

bettababy

I wouldn't keep 2 clown loaches in 75 gallons long term, they get way too big. The rainbows are likely to chew up on the glow fish and the Swordtail, and the angelfish are going to need much more territory and space than 75 gallons long term, and can get quite aggressive as they mature. You don't want to mix ghost shrimp with the red crystal shrimp, they'll eat each other, and the dwarf frogs are likely to also eat the red crystal shrimp.
The rainbows get quite large, 5 - 6 inches for what you've listed, and those species can be quite nippy and territorial. My suggestion would be to work with the rainbows and find others more compatible with them, such as gouramis, some of the barbs... or work with the other smaller fishes and find others that would work with them.

I have to strongly discourage the glo fish. The color in these fish is injected with dye, and its a very inhumane procedure. The dye wears off over time, leaving you with a very plain bland looking fish with lots of health problems. When they inject these fish, the death rate is very high. The only way to work towards prevention is to discourage people from spending money on them and supporting the cause.

Lupin I think had some links to some very informative articles about the glofish and the way they are injected... if not I can search it out for you here and post it.

As for the number of fish you wish to keep in that tank, it will depend greatly on how big they get to be and how aggressive they each are. If you need help with more suggestions, let us know!

BillyVille

The only reason I had 6 clown loaches is because I was told they wouldnt be aggressive if I had atleast 6 together?

what about this...


2 Rainbow Fish
2 Skunk Cory Cats
4 Clown Loaches
3 Pink Glo Fish
3 Orange Glo Fish
4 Angel Fish
1 Swordtail
5 Ghost Shrimp
2 Frogs?

And about the glow fish, My girlfriend wants those so... How big do those get?

bettababy

Unfortunately, if this is going to be a permanent home for these fish, there is not going to be any hopes of keeping any clown loaches long term. A full grown Clown Loach can reach 16 inches, and yes I have seen a few over 14 already.
Again, I can't condone glofish for any tank... and the angels will also outgrow 75 gallons within about 1 yr. Angels average 6 - 8 inches in diameter when full grown, and are quite aggressive. 1 Angel in 75 gallons might go 1 yr, but not much beyond that. There simply is not enough space there for an adult angelfish even alone.

Flashygrrl

Are we talking about the tetra type glowfish (that are indeed injected), or the Danio type glofish that the genetics were "enhanced"?

jeaninel

You don't really have to have a pleco. The cory cats do a great job as a cleanup crew for the bottom, although they don't eat algae. Shrimp will eat algae. You should up the number of the cory cats to maybe 4-6. They like to be in groups.

The rainbows also should be in schools. If you stick with Praecox rainbows they only get to about 3". Boesemani and Irian get bigger, about 4-5". I've not kept Irian but my Boesemani so far have been good tankmates with my other fish. They display alot to each other but don't bother the other fish.

crazy4fish

ok well i agree about leaving out the plec and uping the cories to 4-6. i would forget about getting clown loaches as they will get over a foot long. the ghost shrimp and frogs should be fine and although i am against getting glofish if you reall insist on getting them yourself 6 should be fine. 4 angelfish will be too much but i think a pair should be fine. but you should now that i am not an expert and bettababy has had a lot more experiance so you might want to take advice from her. the angels will get agressive so you might want to think about replacing them with something else. the swordtails will get agressive too and normally like to be kept in at least a pair. if you dont want the agression then you could swap them with mollies or platies. the boesman's rainbow fish get to about 4-5 in. and like schools. but there are others that are smaller.

ok so i think a better list would be
3-5 rainbowfish depending on the size
4-6 cories
3 pink glofish
3 orange glofish
5 ghost shrimp
2 frogs
2 swords/platies/mollies
and depending on wether or not you get some of the above fish you could also get a school of cherry barbs, neons/cardinals, rummynoses, white clouds, or harlequin rasboras. you could also get some gouramis.
if you still want a loach you should some kuhlis,dwarf chained loaches,zebra loaches,or skunk loaches.

BillyVille

Ok im giving up the clown loaches =(

Here is my new list so keep the comments coming...


4 Rainbow Fish
4 Skunk Cory Cats
2 Pink Glo Fish
2 Green Glo Fish
2 Orange Glo Fish
5 Angel Fish
3 Ghost Glass Cats
2 Flame Dwarf Gourami
1 Siamese Algae Eater

5 Ghost Shrimp
2 Frogs
2 Snails

And when Im cycling I will add the 6 glo fish to begin it all.