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post #11 of 14 Old 10-27-2010, 09:20 PM Thread Starter
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Thank you Byron if they get the rams at the LFS for me I will do like you say and try to pick out a pair. I will go with the Flame Tetras as I already have 3 I know I should of got more when I bought them but that was all they had but will be getting more in. Could I do a group of the flames and a group of rummy nose? If so how many of each would you do.

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post #12 of 14 Old 10-28-2010, 01:19 PM
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Thank you Byron if they get the rams at the LFS for me I will do like you say and try to pick out a pair. I will go with the Flame Tetras as I already have 3 I know I should of got more when I bought them but that was all they had but will be getting more in. Could I do a group of the flames and a group of rummy nose? If so how many of each would you do.
You could technically, but in my view I would not have rummynose in anything less than a 3-foot tank. Being such a "torpedo" shaped fish and as they do like to swim, the length is more important than it is for the disk-shaped fish like Flame Tetra. With a pair of rams, a group of 7 Flames, and some bottom fish (more on this in a moment) would be nice. Still room for hatchets for the surface interest, Carnegiella sp. which are smaller.

At warm temps many of the corys will not be happy; C. sterbai is OK at 80F. But other than these, I would go with some of the smaller but more unusual fish, perhaps A BN plec, or a group of 5 dwarf loaches unless you want to be geographic (South American). The issue with catfish in warm temps is water movement and oxygen. Rams like quiet still water, but catfish in still water at high temps have difficulty respirating. This is probably the main issue in warm tanks, finding suitable substrate fish.

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Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
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Is it a 20 high or long? I've kept a breeding pair in a 20 high and wouldn't recommend any more than that, but in a 20 long you could probably get away with more because of the larger bottom area (especially if it's heavily planted). I'd also recommend against 1 male and 3 females; the most recent pair I bought were in a tank with that ratio at the LFS. The two that had paired up were beating the crap out of the other two females, who were cramming themselves into a top corner of the tank.

I had six of the flame (or Von Rio) tetras with my rams and they worked out well together. The Rios stayed more towards the middle and top instead of hanging around at the bottom where the rams were. I'd had neons in there before and (besides liking cooler water) they were always poking their noses into the ram's business, which they did not appreciate.
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post #14 of 14 Old 10-28-2010, 02:13 PM Thread Starter
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Its a 20 long and if they can get them for me I will go with a pair of the Rams, the Flame Tetra, a bushy nose pleco and perhaps the hatchets that Byron was talking about. I want my fish to be happy and healthy which is why I always double check with you guys before I do any changeing around in my tanks. ; )

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