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post #21 of 37 Old 03-30-2009, 01:44 PM Thread Starter
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I understand people are trying to help but reguardless of what they say I'm not gonna change what I want in my tank. I appreciate the help.
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post #22 of 37 Old 03-30-2009, 02:13 PM
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I could just walk away from this discussion but my conscience tells me not to. I have been following it though not contributing until now.

Your initial problem, fish lying on the bottom, had nothing to do with warm water or more light. It clearly had to do with poor wate parameters. You admitted you didn't cycle the tank, that is only asking for fish losses.

You have a mix of fish that is not compatible from the point of water requirements and aggression. Many will be dead before long.

What you have done is comparable to going into a pet store and buying a Black Lab dog, then confining it in a wire cage and throwing in some food and water. That dog will have problems. And it is frankly just as cruel to treat your fish as if they don't matter.

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Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
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post #23 of 37 Old 03-30-2009, 03:07 PM Thread Starter
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Well obviously the water is fine since I havent lost any fish. And I do believe just like the person at a local pet store told me they were just getting used to the bigger light since now all of the fish are swimming around just fine.

Like I have already stated I don't really care if some of you don't like what I have in MY tank so go ahead and waste your time telling me.
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post #24 of 37 Old 03-30-2009, 04:37 PM
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Like Byron already stated, you asked why your fish are staying on the bottom of the tank.....Its not your lights, but believe what you want to believe.....Well everyone here gave you reasons why this may be happening............Now you want to lash out at the people who were trying to help you?.......You came here and asked a question and got answers to your question......From reading Byrons posts (here and other threads), this guy forgot more about fish than the person at the fish store will ever know.....Sorry if the constructive critism hit a nerve, but you seeked out help and got it, dont be upset with anyone about the answers you got
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post #25 of 37 Old 03-30-2009, 06:44 PM
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Just be sure to buy that API freshwater test kit if you have not already.
You would not believe how fast water quality can change. When a tank is newly setup, I test twice a day.
I am sure you do not want to expose your fish to any toxins.
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post #26 of 37 Old 03-30-2009, 06:52 PM
The lakers guy is offline but i long since wanted to tell him to OXYGENATE his tank for a bit. Its much deeper and he just filled it so i think it could have helped. Like he said his water is fine.
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post #27 of 37 Old 03-30-2009, 07:30 PM
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Thats a very good point catfishabbi.
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post #28 of 37 Old 03-31-2009, 06:14 AM
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It's not likely to be an oxygen issue. The action of filling the tank would have oxygenated the water just fine and if the surface is being churned by the filter it will stay that way. Also, if oxygen were the issue the fish would be hanging near the top of the aquarium where the water contains the most oxygen, not at the bottom where it has the least.

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post #29 of 37 Old 03-31-2009, 06:54 AM
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My own feeling is that acclimation of the fish to the tank was perhaps a contributing factor. Fish in dealer tanks are often found in water with high levels of conductivity due to all manner of chemicals that may or may not exist in these tanks. Conductivity relates to total dissolved solids which in turn affects osmoregulation of fishes. If not acclimated properly, The fish would be under considerable stress while trying to adjust. IMHO

The most important medication in your fish medicine cabinet is.. Clean water.
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post #30 of 37 Old 04-03-2009, 09:10 AM
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Oh how I love when people come to an advice forum and not take people's advice. Yay for first impressions.

agreed! im a newbie however totally understand im a dumb a** compared to you veterans! I never knew what cycle meant til I came here and also thanks to you cody and everyone like you that tries to be so helpful to others.
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