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post #51 of 62 Old 10-28-2010, 01:31 PM
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I don't know about the % of distilled water but I do know that you can not skip the cycle useing the water from the other tank because ther is not really much bacteria in the actual water its in the filter and gravel and decorations. If you get lots and lots of plants in the tank then you will not have to worry about the cycle.

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post #52 of 62 Old 10-28-2010, 01:45 PM
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Amanda is correct. Tanks have to be cycled, or if you have enough live plants, they cycle themselves with just a few fish at first. This is the easiest and safest method, so get lots of plants at the start. I usually set the tank yup one day, with plants, wood, etc. but no fish, get the filter and heater running, and leave it overnight to ensure there are no problems (heater and filter work, no leaks, etc). Then add a few fish (having used water conditioner the first day obviously). There is no benefit at all to using existing tank water, in fact quite the opposite as you will be introducing ammonia and perhaps other things without reason. Nitrifying bacteria live on surfaces covered by water, so moving over plants, wood, rocks or substrate from an existing tank (without washing these) would transfer bacteria. This is useful if fish are also being moved over the same day. But without a source of ammonia and nitrite (the food for the bacteria), they will die within several hours.

On the mix of distilled and tap, it depends upon the volume of water in the tank and the hardness of the tap water.

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I don't know about the % of distilled water but I do know that you can not skip the cycle useing the water from the other tank because ther is not really much bacteria in the actual water its in the filter and gravel and decorations. If you get lots and lots of plants in the tank then you will not have to worry about the cycle.
You can't? What happened to my cichlids? I gave them 60% of the water from my other 10 gallon tank. The rest of the water was new, right out of the bottle. My friend who gave me the cichlids dumped out all of the water from the cichlids. I just added water from my other tank, no plants. Tested the ammonia for the next 2 weeks. No ammonia or nitrites. They seemed perfectly healthy to me.

I guess I can learn a new method if I need to...

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You were lucky that time if you did not have any problems.

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Amanda is correct. Tanks have to be cycled, or if you have enough live plants, they cycle themselves with just a few fish at first. This is the easiest and safest method, so get lots of plants at the start. I usually set the tank yup one day, with plants, wood, etc. but no fish, get the filter and heater running, and leave it overnight to ensure there are no problems (heater and filter work, no leaks, etc). Then add a few fish (having used water conditioner the first day obviously). There is no benefit at all to using existing tank water, in fact quite the opposite as you will be introducing ammonia and perhaps other things without reason. Nitrifying bacteria live on surfaces covered by water, so moving over plants, wood, rocks or substrate from an existing tank (without washing these) would transfer bacteria. This is useful if fish are also being moved over the same day. But without a source of ammonia and nitrite (the food for the bacteria), they will die within several hours.

On the mix of distilled and tap, it depends upon the volume of water in the tank and the hardness of the tap water.
Are you saying you can cycle a tank in 1 day!? Serious? That sounds very convienient!

I am not doubting at all I am just making sure I read this correctly. So you can cycle a tank in a day (or parts of 2 anyways)? Thanks!

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post #56 of 62 Old 10-28-2010, 02:09 PM
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Yes if you have lots and lots of plants that is the main thing you have to be sure of LOTS and LOTS of plants. ; )

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Unfortunately, that is what I thought. I have 2 live plants between all my aquariums. I am trying to grow more but it will take time. Is there another way to fast cycle without plants (or maybe even without fish)?

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post #58 of 62 Old 10-28-2010, 02:19 PM
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Fast way no, other way with out fish yes. You can read about the other ways in the section about cycleing.

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Amanda

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post #59 of 62 Old 10-28-2010, 02:21 PM Thread Starter
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Any recommendations? links? suggestions where to find information?

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0.1.0 Firemouth Cichlid

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post #60 of 62 Old 10-28-2010, 02:27 PM
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Here you go:
http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/f...m-cycle-38617/

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I have MTS and there is no cure.

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