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Ember and Lemon Tetras 10 gallon tank?
Old 10-24-2010, 02:21 PM   #11
 
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I think minimal filtration is because the tetras dont like a huge/ fast flow.
I no im not an expert but couldnt u maybe get 4 more Lemon Tetras, and maybe some smallish centrsl fish, or a trio?? Or some Otocinclis
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Old 10-24-2010, 02:40 PM   #12
 
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What is a small central fish? Or a trio? I couldn't find anything on these kinds of fish. I really am not that interested in catfish. I am trying to give up a corydoras cat right now because my other one died (I don't even know why) afew weeks ago.

Could I get neons? How many of those can I have with 6 Lemons? And will that be enough? I also like live bearers. Could I get 6 Lemon Tetras and a platy? I really haven't done alot of research on platys so please don't recommend them if the minimum tank size is bigger than a 10.

And should I get rid of my power filter? I can go to my other LFS and get an empty 10 for $13. I can go to my other LFS and get an air filter for $15. Should I use an air filter for the tetras? I could not imagine letting that water go still! I would have my ammonioa soar!

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Old 10-24-2010, 02:44 PM   #13
 
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I meanb y central fish 1 specific fish that is nice and colourful, or a trio of smaller nice coloured fish, im not sure about filrtation not good on that, is there any possibility you could get a slightly bigger tank?? 15 gallons??
I wouldnt see a problem with a platy or 2? But im not an expert!
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Old 10-24-2010, 02:54 PM   #14
 
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Wah!!!
I wish I could but I am on a steady income of $10 in spending money a week with $7 to my name (that doesn't include the $1100+ I put in the bank), I am not broke. I am just broke for fish.

About the filter. I wasn't sure if I should get just an air filter for my 10g and use the power filter I have now for another 10g (I could get an empty 10 gallon tank for $13).

If I only used an air filter would that be ok with a platy? I have heard they are pretty messy. I don't know if either of my local fish stores have a soft filter that wouldn't effect the current as much and has a tiny stream.

Thanks for your fast response to this thread!
Any imput is and will be appreciated!
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Old 10-24-2010, 02:56 PM   #15
 
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I havent heard that platys are messy, do u have an internal filter?? Because on my filter they are very powerful but you can control the flow high or low
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Old 10-24-2010, 03:09 PM   #16
 
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You should absolutly keep your power filter running. As far as the angel fish and gourami I would not suggest that as they might fight, both can be classified as semi aggressive though most of the time they are calm. Now, about the lemons, as Byron said, you realy need as least 6 of them or they may not thrive. I am unfamiliar with the surface area rule your mentioned earlier but the one that is commonly excepted is 1 inch of fish for 1 gallon of water. Based on that you could only have 10 inches of fish in your tank. In my personaly opinion, that is even a little to tight for fish. I hate to rain on your parade but if I were in your shoes, I would save up the $10 a week and upgrade to a 20gal, or, im afraid that if you are set on tetras or some other type of schooling fish you are going to need to settle with one species. At the end of the day you can do whatever you want, but your fish would be paying a pretty high price. If your set on having more than one species in your 10gal, and no one will be able to persuade you otherwise then you have to have to have to keep up on your water changes and make sure you have ample filtration. And get prepared for sick fish.
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Old 10-24-2010, 03:46 PM   #17
 
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Ok. Maybe I can save up for a 20g. But that will take several weeks even if I don't buy anything. What do I do until then? Leave them on the power filter? Can I still use my power filter if I keep the waterfall very tiny?

So I guess 6 Lemon Tetras and a platy won't work? I mean, a platy is only 2 inches. If I stay on top of water changes, have the best possible filtration (without upsetting the tetras), and plant the tank, can't the tank be just a little overstocked? That is about 10.5 inches of fish right? And the 1 inch per gallon rule doesn't include the plants in the math.

Does anybody know where to get used tanks off the internet? Just curious.

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Old 10-24-2010, 03:51 PM   #18
 
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Yes, we are all trying to give you the benefit of our experiences, losing fish, having sick fish--many of us went through it because when we started (at least when I did back when I was in school and that was decades ago) there was no internet with forums to go for advice, and we learned by failing and lost many fish along the way.

Anyway, you need to decide what you want first, and then work towards it. If you really want Lemon Tetra, fine; as I said, get 4 more so you have 6, and they will manage in your 10g. When you can afford a 20g, you can move them in there with another species, like neons (6 of them). And perhaps 5 corys for the lower level interest, or something else; corys also need to be in a group, 5 works well and is workable in a 20g tank.

On the other hand, if the 10g is it for the present, then select fish that will be happy (= healthy) in a 10g. Ember Tetra work fine, a group of 7-9; there are other small fish, have a look at the dwarf rasbora, Boraras brigittae, in the profiles; or the Scarlet Badis, Dario dario.

Livebearers were mentioned; the Embers and other fish above are soft water fish, while livebearers are harder water fish. Nothing has been mentioned yet about your tap water parameters (hardness, pH). This has a bearing on which fish are compatible.

A comment on filtration; most of these fish prefer less water movement. In a 10g and 20g tank, an ideal filter is a simple sponge filter connected to a small air pump. Something else to think about.

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Old 10-24-2010, 03:57 PM   #19
 
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As Byron said the 10 gallon is not big enough for two types of any tetra. You should stick with only one if you do the lemons you will have to do a 50% water change weekly even with the plants. The angel and gourami are definatly a no in a 10 gallon as the angel gets way to big and if you want to have other fish with the gourami your tank will need to be bigger than a 10 because the gourami can be aggressive. You should be fine with only the one filter you should not need two. If I were you and I am not I would do like someone else said and save up your money and get a bigger tank then you will have more options. If you look on craigslist you can sometimes find them pretty cheap.
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Old 10-24-2010, 04:09 PM   #20
 
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I have heard about these sponge filters but I don't know hardly anything about them. My Tetra 5-15 Power filter has something called a bio cartridge that I am not supposed to change (ever). What is the sponge for? My LFStores carry the brands Tetra and AquaCulture. I don't know if they have sponge filters. How much should a sponge filter cost?

Tetras are soft water fish!?!?! ! That is not good. What about swordtails? I think I'm keeping the swordails until I can get a tank upgrade! They have lived together for months! Maye that is why my Lemons are pale. .

Maybe I can get a 20g tank and put the swordtails and corydoras in there (if swordtails and corydoras are hard water fish), and have a school of lemons in the 10g. How do I make the water soft?

Until I get an upgrade, GatorSwamp is going to have to be hard water (75). At least I adjusted the 8.0 pH to 7.0 pH afew months ago.

Just curious, is there a tiny fish that tollerates soft water that I can put in with the lemons, that doesn't group (so I can get 1)?

Thanks for responding to this thread!
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