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post #1 of 12 Old 04-24-2013, 07:36 PM Thread Starter
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chosing fish

I'll getting a 30 gallon tank and I am not sure of what to get,but here's my ideas.

1 anglefish tank

2 Chichiled* tank *Is that what there are called

3 community tank with 5 rams not sure which kind,1 anglefish, 4 coryies, 4 cherry barbs,3 dimand backs and 4 phantom tetras.
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post #2 of 12 Old 04-25-2013, 02:14 AM
Angelfish need a shoal, unless you have a mated pair, so unfortunately they won't work in your 30 gallon tank unless you acquire a pair, and are willing to accommodate them and their needs/potential to be very aggressive to tank mates. in fact all i would include with a mated pair in 30 gallons is bottom feeders. and most would say to keep the pair alone.

As for a cichlid tank, (actually angelfish are a type of cichlid but I know you are talking about something else), you probably can't do a group of the very popular large Africans, but potentially you could putsome dwarf cichlids in 30 gallons.


As for your community tank idea, not sure id include all of those fish. like i said about angels, you can't have just one. so that idea would be best put aside. as for the rams, i don't know a lot about these little cichlids, but therr are several users who do. the barbs, i also don't know a lot about but i don't think they'd do well in 30 gallons. they are active little guys. as for tetras, id recommend picking one speicies and adding 8-15 of them (smaller varieties you could add a couple more I'm sure). Most cories would do just fine in 30 gallons.

Hopefully someone will come in and help with the fish i don't know about . regardless of what you choose though, almost any fish enjoys live plants as part of their environment :)
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post #3 of 12 Old 04-25-2013, 10:17 AM
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Corys, barbs and tetras need groups that are usually recommended to be 6 or more. I'm not certain about mixing barbs and tetras, I would go with two tetra shoals or two barbs shoals if you wanted some visual variety and more compatible fish. Then look at a group of corys. You will need to watch the water parameters though, some will have higher temperature ranges than the corys as well as varying hardness tolerances.

I ditto the plant remark, the more plants the better and this will help with higher stocking levels as well.

I looked at rams and cichlids and decided to skip them as there are potential issues with aggression and territories that I just didn't want to have to deal with... so I can't comment beyond that.

Having said that, I did look at the cockatoo dwarf cichlid and figured that I could go with a group of 4 or 5 of those with a selection of compatible fish... but I don't recall the list now. They are best in soft water and I have very hard water.

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I've mixed many species of barbs and tetras, without any issues. Cherry barbs will do great in a 30 gallon tank.

125 - BGK, chanchito cichlid, pictus cats, silver dollars, palmas bichir
125 - cichlids (severums, bolivian rams, chocolate), rainbows ( turquoise, red), loaches (angelicus, zebra, kuhli and horseface), plecos (BN, RL and clown), denison barbs, tiretrack eel, pearl gouramis, betta
90 - Congo tetras, african knife, upside down cats, spotted ctenopoma, kribensis, delhezzi bichir
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I've mixed many species of barbs and tetras, without any issues. Cherry barbs will do great in a 30 gallon tank.
I do like the cherry barbs. I'm going to try a group of silvertip tetra if I can find them... in another tank.

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post #6 of 12 Old 04-25-2013, 01:31 PM
Oh cool! Glad cherry barbs can be an.option for OP
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post #7 of 12 Old 04-27-2013, 11:45 AM Thread Starter
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when I said angiefish tank I ment like there's only anglefish in it
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post #8 of 12 Old 04-27-2013, 01:18 PM
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anglefish can be a touch and go type fish, they like to shoal when younger but once they pair off they can become aggressive, some pairs more then others. what was recommended to me was start with like 10 or so angels for my 55 gallon. as they grow and start to pair off weed out the really aggressive pairs and sell them as unproven pair. this way I can find the super aggressors and weed them out myself while still keeping angels and a few other species in the tank without having extreme aggression issues.
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post #9 of 12 Old 04-27-2013, 01:36 PM
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Translation, buy lots and foist off the nasties to someone else.

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post #10 of 12 Old 04-27-2013, 02:00 PM
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A 30 is much too small for angelfish, even if they are the only fish. Angels can get to be 8-12 inches high and 6 inches long, and a shoal of 5 (which they MUST have, unless they are a proven mated pair (not just a male/female, angels choose their own mates and if they dislike the female/male you have chosen they could fight and stress each other to death)) is just too much for your tank. IMO I would just forget the angels all together until you have a larger tank.

You'd be best to stick to smaller fish, with 2-3 different shoals max.

What are your water parameters? PH, GH, KH? The fish you mention you want have vastly different needs in regards to water hardness. You can find your water info online through your city's water site.
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