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post #21 of 30 Old 08-29-2012, 09:29 PM
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lol! I know you love your goldies, dear! And you take great care of them, too! There is some sort of odd beauty in a full-grown properly-housed pleco. It isn't for me, but they are amazing animals in their own right, and I can see why some people like them - goldfish, too! I personally LOVE Koi over goldies any day ;) But that's neither here nor there!!!

Pearl, it looks like you're on your way to getting some good advice to your friend! Good luck!
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post #22 of 30 Old 08-30-2012, 05:23 PM Thread Starter
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She knows how big plecos get. Are there actually mini arowanas?
She doesn't want to get shrimp if they might be eaten, so I email her about the plants.
Ches, I loves my goldfish but wouldn't want them again. There just kinda . . .dumb, I guess. I found pictures of them a couple days ago. The water was sooo gross!!
Trying to give her alist of mandatory stuff. Mental block :p

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post #23 of 30 Old 08-30-2012, 05:49 PM Thread Starter
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So far the list had:
pH tester
Ammonia tester
Nitrite tester
Freeze-dried bloodworms
Betta pellets
Tropical fish flakes
Eheim Mini by Hagen
25w heater
Aquarium Salt
Gravel or playsand
2 2 gallon buckets
Thermometer (suction cup kind)
Net
Toothbrughes
Gravel cleaners
Lid and hood
2g QT (opt)

Anything I am missing?

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post #24 of 30 Old 08-30-2012, 05:55 PM
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The african butterflyfish is the closest thing I can imagine to a miniature arowana. But the person who suggested this concept was, I believe, being facetious at the time.



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post #25 of 30 Old 08-30-2012, 05:58 PM Thread Starter
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post #26 of 30 Old 08-30-2012, 06:59 PM
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It's hard to know for sure, since we have only written text, but the statement was something like " I think a miniature arowana would be a great tank-mate for a betta in a 5 gallon tank.

I thought it was a somewhat sarcastic in tone, yes. Whaty can I say, it made me laugh.



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post #27 of 30 Old 08-31-2012, 12:33 PM Thread Starter
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LOL, yep, throw in a couple red tailed cats and your good to go! Or the Betta is at least ready to go to its grave.

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post #28 of 30 Old 08-31-2012, 12:46 PM
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Jaysee is pretty much always sarcastic.
There are mini arowana, but they are deformed short bodied fish. And still much too big for a 5 gallon anyways.

A mystery snail would be fine with a betta in that tank.
I think you missed nitrate test.

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3 lovely male betta still keep me company.
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post #29 of 30 Old 08-31-2012, 12:55 PM Thread Starter
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Yes! That was what I was missing! I kept looking at the test thinking what am I missing! :D

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post #30 of 30 Old 09-01-2012, 05:43 AM
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The butterfly fish is a relative of the arrowana, but it's doesn't really look anything like one. IMO, golden wonder killis are like mini arrowanas. But, they are way too big for a 5 as well. There are other, smaller species that could be kept in a 5 though, but they are not commonly available.

I do not consider those "mini" arrowanas to be mini any more than a fancy goldfish is a mini. Yes it's smaller, but only because it's deformed. Also, those "mini" arrowanas cost thousands of dollars, AND there is a waiting list for them, since there aren't many fish that have the deformity. They are not bred for it like other species.

125 - BGK, chanchito cichlid, pictus cats, silver dollars, palmas bichir
125 - cichlids (severums, bolivian rams, chocolate), rainbows ( turquoise, red), loaches (angelicus, zebra, kuhli and horseface), plecos (BN, RL and clown), denison barbs, tiretrack eel, pearl gouramis, betta
90 - Congo tetras, african knife, upside down cats, spotted ctenopoma, kribensis, delhezzi bichir
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