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post #11 of 30 Old 08-29-2012, 12:31 PM Thread Starter
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She cant have a big tnak because she has to move between her gummy's and her dads and a big tank would be too hard. She emailed that she would love a 5 gallon with a betta (heated and filtered, of course :p) and she made fun of me for saying 'The betta will tank you so so so so so much'.
She knows that plecos et huge, her uncle has one in his 100g gallon tank. She has a swordtail in that tank and had a molly.
What other creatures could go in there? Ghost shrimp, a snail. Arowana?

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post #12 of 30 Old 08-29-2012, 12:44 PM
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Yes, a mini arrowana would fit nicely in the the 5 with the betta, and maybe even a mini goldfish. Mini fish are VERY hard to come by though.

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post #13 of 30 Old 08-29-2012, 12:49 PM Thread Starter
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Aside from a betta what could work? The dimensions are 16" x 8" x 10" (lxwxh) So if you shouldn't have fish that are bigger then 3 inches (less then 1 fifth of the tank length).
ADF and certian small tetras?

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post #14 of 30 Old 08-29-2012, 12:52 PM
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If she's not looking for anything big, then a 5 gal with a betta is a great choice! Just make sure she keeps the filter media wet. And it's probably a good idea to have live plants to help with any little ammonia spikes that come from moving the tank.

If she has mollies in a 100 gal tank at her uncle's they wouldn't be there for long with an arrowana.

She could get a small snail for her 5 gal betta tank, but I don't think shrimp would take too kindly to being moved around a lot. Maybe a rabbit snail or an apple snail?

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post #15 of 30 Old 08-29-2012, 01:10 PM
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Nah, tetra really do need more space to spread out in, and should be kept in a shoal. I'd stick with the betta - it WILL tank you, hopefully! How often will she be moving it back and forth? Even 5 gallons is a lot of water to be sloshing around in the back of a car. . . an ADF *MIGHT* work, but it's risky if she has nowhere to put the frog if the Betta is too aggressive and picks on it :/ Koi's right - live plants would be a help here, I'd look into some floaters that would thrive no matter what - this might be the ideal situation for Duckweed (I actually like Duckweed!). My betta LOVES his floating plants - helps to keep his bubble nests together!
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I had a mini rainbow trout. Actually it was a celestial pearl danio. But it's still too big for a 5 gallon tank cause they like to speed around in schools. And then there are those threadfin rainbowfishes, which speed around in groups like maniacs, so they are too big for this tank too.


Pearl, does your friend envision the large pleco reclining in the five gallon tank with its tail hanging out one end? Kind of like Darryl Hannah in Tom Hanks' bathtub in the movie "Splash"?

Just curious. As I recall, Darryl was much cuter than a Pleco in that movie. . .



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post #17 of 30 Old 08-29-2012, 02:53 PM
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MAN!!! I LOVED that movie when I was a kid! Splash. . . I'll have to see if I can get that on Netflix! Wonder if my mermaid-obsessed 5-year old would like it. . . I can just SEE a full grown Pleco lounging in a 5g! Too funny. . .

It's funny, but all of the fish stores still very much give people the impression that a Pleco is a necessary part of the freshwater tank. . . even small tanks! I fell into this trap, and everyone I knew prior to this site had or has a pleco in their ill-managed tank. Mine has since been rehomed, but . . . I do have to wonder WHY this rumor has continued despite all facts!
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I know! It seems everyone has an uncle or older brother who has a huge tank with a damned oscar that he feeds live goldfish to and a big ol' pleco. And this dude is supposed to be the "family fish expert". And everybody in the family who gets an aquarium is told to listen to this idiot: "Oh you have fish? You should go talk to Uncle Frankie! Uncle Frank, little Nicky here has fish. Tell him what he should do."

Uncle Frankie finishes his fifth beer and his eleventh marlboro and says "Do you got a sucker fish? Man! You gotta get a suckerfish so it can eat all the sh__ in the tank."

So everyone does this. Having a sailfin pleco grow from a two inch juvenile to a foot-long statue is the hallmark of good fish-keeping. You can see this sad progression everywhere you go: from "once-thriving tank" to "death throes final spasm" where only one wizened fish remains, an emaciated angelfish, a skittery silver dollar, accompanied by a huge and immobile pleco attached to the front glass like a rubberized parody of itself.

I was eating at a Turkish restaurant a couple months ago, and that was in the dining room. That tank I just described. A 75 gallon tank with a mean old green terror in one corner, and a mean old convict in another corner, and a big rubber pleco stuck to the front glass between them. . . Occasionally, the cichlids go at each other, ripping furiously at each other's jaws, then sinking back down in individual misery and boredom.

I swear. You see that tank everywhere. At least I do. And I'm really tired of that tank. The worst feng shui in the world. the Turkish food was bad to begin with, but that tank ruined my appetite, too!



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post #19 of 30 Old 08-29-2012, 04:12 PM
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Stop reminding me how beautiful (and alike in color to trout) the little CPD are. I've got no room for another tank!

Ches, the thing with plecos is an odd obsession. I think it came from the illusion that these fish could clean the tank for you. Because for a while a clean tank meant one free of algae. I don't know if it started as an advertising gimmick for pet stores or just what. But now we know better. And hey, some people actually love those little guys. Frankly I like my ammonia-machines to be in the form of goldfish.

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post #20 of 30 Old 08-29-2012, 04:18 PM
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Plecos are so great when you get the right kind and you get them because you want them. My ancistrus are spritely little things chasing each other all over, settling down to share a spirulina disk. Great!

But then there's monster pleco. . .the stoical nitrate factory.



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