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Old 01-29-2012, 06:06 PM   #21
 
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Ultimately,, It would be entirely dependent on species of fishes that the OP decides upon as to whether or not R/O water would be of benefit to the health of the fishes.
Livebearer's and or African cichlid's for example, would do poorly in soft acidic water usually produced through reverse osmosis. Other species would much appreciate the R/O produced water but many ,many,people are able to keep all mannner of freshwater species with basic water from tap, so long as it is not extremely lacking in buffering capacity, or too alkaline.

I know it is very possible to keep fish in tap water, but no matter what the fish it is still going to be better for them if you use RO water. Even if the fish like hard alkaline water it is better to use RO water and then add what is needed by the fish. Once the water is purified you know that there is absolutely nothing in it that could potentially harm your fish, whereas you never really know what is coming out of your tap water at any given time.
I used to have an African Cichlid tank that i only used tap water for and it did great and thrived, but if you want to be safe with your fish and increase their chance at living better and longer than i think that you should use RO and add in what the fish will require if the RO water is too stripped down for them.

Of course RO is not the only way to keep fish, but based off of my previous expreiences I think that RO is the best option and to build off of that.

(I don't mean to upset anybody, just expressing my opinion)
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Old 01-29-2012, 06:07 PM   #22
 
oh that suks, i dont want hugee sharks just ones that are good enough for the tank, and also are these filters any good which one would be best and worth the money

Hagen Aqua Clear Power Filters - Filters - Fish - PetSmart

EHEIM Classic External Canister - Filters - Fish - PetSmart

EHEIM Ecco Canister Filters for Saltwater or Freshwater Aquariums - Filters - Fish - PetSmart

Fluval External Canister Aquarium Filters - Filters - Fish - PetSmart

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Old 01-29-2012, 06:18 PM   #23
 
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In my opinion I think that the AquaClear 110 filter will be the most bank for your buck. If i had to choose one of the canister filters i would choose the fluval.
All of these brands make a good filter though, so you can't really go too far wrong with any of them.
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Old 01-31-2012, 04:14 AM   #24
 
alright im thinking of the aquaclear aswell but someone commented on here saying get 2 aquaclear 110s on each side of the tank. wouldnt 1 be good enough because it does tanks up to 110gallon, or would 2 be better ?

and im thinking of a african clichlid tank becuase they look really cool, would that be a good choice for me (im a beginnger) or some other fish ? ( i just want fish dont wana breed any)

and do you need real driftwood for the tank or fake? and how much do they cost. thnaks

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Old 01-31-2012, 06:14 PM   #25
 
i heard algae growth is a really big problem for the tank, and is a pain in the ass to clean. how does it start and what is the best way to prevent it?

i was thinking of putting a diy bakround on the aquarium, would that help?

would the aquaclear 110 filter prevent it ?
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Old 02-01-2012, 11:31 PM   #26
 
New cichlid tank

i dont have a tank yet but i want to get prepared before i get one.

whats the best size tank (minimum size and maximum )
WHAT DO YOU NEED ( im on a tight budget but i want stuff that will work and last long)
which breed of cichlids are best
i want all MALE tank, because i dont want to breed
DIY backround a good choice ?
how to control algae?
how to cycle the tank before fish and when to put fish in (what conditions are needed for them)

if i missed anything feel free to add.

thanks for the help.
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Old 02-01-2012, 11:39 PM   #27
 
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i dont have a tank yet but i want to get prepared before i get one.

whats the best size tank (minimum size and maximum )
Research what fish you would like and this will help determine it
WHAT DO YOU NEED ( im on a tight budget but i want stuff that will work and last long)
Tank, heater, filtration in relation to your tank size, lights, substrate (sand/gravel), fake or real plants, decorations (rocks etc)
which breed of cichlids are best
Personal choice
i want all MALE tank, because i dont want to breed
DIY backround a good choice ?
If you are creative enough to build one
how to control algae?
Various choices, dependent on what fish you want to stock
how to cycle the tank before fish and when to put fish in (what conditions are needed for them)
see
here

if i missed anything feel free to add.

thanks for the help.

good luck
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Old 02-02-2012, 03:51 AM   #28
 
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One of them should be fine for the tank, I think two might be a little overkill. The reason why the other person said to put two on (i think) is because it creates more media for more water to go through which makes the tank clean. This is a very good thing, but i think putting an extra aquaclear 110 would be a little overkill. If you were to put additional filtration on i would put on an aquaclear 50, it definitely won't hurt.

African cichlids are a good choice, but you have to make sure to keep the ph high and stable, and the fish that pick are compatible with one another. Other than that it should be pretty simple. My very first tank was a cichlid tank :)

Real driftwood isn't really that expensive, it doesn't really matter if it's real or fake as long as there is something there for the fish to hide in or give shelter and protection. There is not a huge difference in price between fake and real driftwood and real driftwood looks a lot better than fake, so i would recommend real.

Algae growth in itself is not necessarily a big problem, in fact you need algae in your tank for it to be healthy. The whole process of cycling your tank is so it can set up bacterias and beneficial algae which stabalizes the tank. There are problems when bad algae (such as hair algae) starts to grow and get out of hand. One of the main things that contribute to algae growth is high phosphates, so as long as you keep those under controll (along with nitrates, nitrites, and ammonia) you should be fine. Also, the two things that algae needs to grow are heat and light, which of course is exactly what we provide for our fish and plants :/ the more intense light you put on your tank the more algae will grow. That is an extremely basic way of explaining just a part of how algae grows. All filters help to prevent bad algae but no matter what you do there will always be algae in your tank, just be sure to wipe the tank walls and do gravel vacs when changing the water (if you choose to use gravel) and make sure you are up to date with the maintenence of the tank and there shouldn't be an algae outbreak.

Personally, I hate backgrounds on fish tanks. What I would strongly recommend doing before you set up the tank is spraypaint the outside back of the tank black. This will make all the colors on your fish pop, and just makes the tank look modern and clean.
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Old 02-02-2012, 09:55 AM   #29
 
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Hey Fishboss,

i would say it depends on if your getting south American or south America Cichlids for what size but i have a 55 gallon for Oscar fish and that should work for you if you don't over stock on fish, Substrate such as gravel or sand(I prefer gravel) and some drift wood,plants(live or fake) if you want live plants read up on them cause they need certain care, heater check the wattage, filter,all Cichlids are pretty cool and fun to watch, as for algae you can purchase either a glass scrubber or get an algae eater as they help to keep the tank clean(be sure to check how big they get cause they vary in size and some require specific tank sizes) other than that they are pretty easy to care for, i would cycle the tank for about 1-2 weeks to remove everything bad in the tank so your fish wont get sick(two of my fish died as a result of not cycling the tank long enough) tropical fish should be kept anywhere from 74-82 degrees F,be sure to clean the tank at least once a week if you have alot of fish,and be sure to add dechlorinator to the water as regular tap water can harm your fish,

good luck with the fishkeeping!

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Old 02-02-2012, 10:24 AM   #30
 
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"i would cycle the tank for about 1-2 weeks to remove everything bad in the tank so your fish wont get sick(two of my fish died as a result of not cycling the tank long enough"

You tank needs to cycle for way longer than that...unless you seeded it with media from another tank, a cycle will NOT complete in that time.
Adding any sort of fish with ammonia and Nitrite is not good long term for the fishes health and will lead to a premature death.

As the person is new to fishkeeping, then they should read up on the article I posted in my previous reply.



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