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Beginner freshwater aquariumm helppppp
Old 01-29-2012, 01:53 AM   #11
 
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You don't need R/O water to run a healthy freshwater tank .
Tapwater and water conditioner such as PRIME will allow you to keep a wide range of freshwater tropical fish.
This is true, you don't absolutely need to use RO water to run a healthy freshwater tank, but the fish will be A LOT happier if you do use RO water, and will help them live longer and healthier.

Sand or gravel would be fine, gravel is more common, but it is all really personal preference.

I don't have too much experience with canister filters, but i would strongly recommend using the aquaclear power filter.

The basic test kits (ph, nitrite, nitrate, ammonia) are extremely easy to use.

It depends how much work you want to put into the tank if you want to keep live plants. Live plants will definitely require RO water, and also more powerful lights. I have all my plants planted in gravel, I don't know how the plants will react in sand, but i know they will grow in gravel.
If you don't want live plants in there you will definitely need some sort of decaration. Drift wood, fake plants, and ornaments would be great additions. You should add drift wood no matter what.
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Old 01-29-2012, 02:50 AM   #12
 
alright thanks. i have a couple of questions for you.
is sand better than gravel ? i heard your supposed to have sand for saltwater ? and people say playsand is not a good idea for the tank because plants cant grow and it messes up filter or somthing like that and i heard that pea gravel is also a good thing ? what do you think?
what filter would you recommend?
is it easy to use test kits?
are plants in the tank worth it or are ornaments better? if no plants then what would be good to put in tank?

and last i can get the 90 gallon tank with light/lid, heater, python hose and stand for $350

it looks like this

http://imgc.classistatic.com/cps/kjc...3252gj_20.jpeg


thanks for your help
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Old 01-29-2012, 05:43 AM   #13
 
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I personally think that gravel is better than sand because you will be able to gravel vac it to make sure it is clean. In my tank i have a small-medium size gravel, and in another tank I have a small gravel, and in both tanks the plants are setting roots in the gravel and are very healthy.
Personally i would recommend the aquaclear 110 power filter, but a canister filter is also a very good choice, I have had good experience with fluval. Canister filters are a little more tricky to clean out for maintanance than the poewr filter, but either type would be a great choice.

Test kits are extremely easy to use

What type of lights does the system come with?

If you are going to use RO water there is really no need for a python hose, but water jugs would be a very wise investement.

Also make sure that the tank has no leaks before you set it up, because there is nothing worse than a tank leaking gallons and gallons of water all over your floor
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Old 01-29-2012, 07:56 AM   #14
 
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I also like gravel better then sand. I LOVE live plants in a tank and they are beneficial to the water quality so I would recommend them. Also a bit of driftwood from a fish store for decoration.

I think that looks to be a very good price for the tank, stand, lights and python. Compared to what I have seen around here anyway.

Before setting your tank up, think about what kind of scene you want. Do you like something real calming or a tank full of activity. What kind of fish you like to look at. Then you need to find out which types of fish have the same needs and can live together. Plan your tank around that. Do not let the fish stores talk you into fish right away. Read lots, listen to people who know what they are talking about. There are several of those on here. Taking your time and doing things right the first time will save you a ton of money and time.

Look at some of the members aquariums on here to see what you like. Once you see what you like, ask more questions about those tanks. A 90 gallon is a nice size and will give you a lot of options.
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Old 01-29-2012, 08:33 AM   #15
 
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I have Anubias and Java Fern growing very nicely in my African Cichlid tank with a sand substrate. Sand as a substrate might be beneficial depending on what fish you ultimately decide on.

Research, Research and ask questions...that will help you decide the fish stock you want.
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Old 01-29-2012, 04:15 PM   #16
 
alright thanks, if i want plants later on would sand/pea gravel or regular gravel from fish store be better ?
and also i was thinking of keeping sharks because they look sick, if i were to keep them what other fish would i be able to keep with them.
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Old 01-29-2012, 05:30 PM   #17
 
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This is true, you don't absolutely need to use RO water to run a healthy freshwater tank, but the fish will be A LOT happier if you do use RO water, and will help them live longer and healthier.

Sand or gravel would be fine, gravel is more common, but it is all really personal preference.

I don't have too much experience with canister filters, but i would strongly recommend using the aquaclear power filter.

The basic test kits (ph, nitrite, nitrate, ammonia) are extremely easy to use.

It depends how much work you want to put into the tank if you want to keep live plants. Live plants will definitely require RO water, and also more powerful lights. I have all my plants planted in gravel, I don't know how the plants will react in sand, but i know they will grow in gravel.
If you don't want live plants in there you will definitely need some sort of decaration. Drift wood, fake plants, and ornaments would be great additions. You should add drift wood no matter what.

Ultimately,, It would be entirely dependent on species of fishes that the OP decides upon as to whether or not R/O water would be of benefit to the health of the fishes.
Livebearer's and or African cichlid's for example, would do poorly in soft acidic water usually produced through reverse osmosis. Other species would much appreciate the R/O produced water but many ,many,people are able to keep all mannner of freshwater species with basic water from tap, so long as it is not extremely lacking in buffering capacity, or too alkaline.
Like wise,,many,many,folks are able to grow plant's in both types of water .
Vallisneria for example, does very well in hard alkaline water for it can draw it's carbon source from carbonate hardness of source water Would also look good as background plant in tank mentioned, and many other species of plant's could care less.
CO2 is much more important from plant's perspective followed by nutrient's and available light.
Lot's of folk's grow all manner of plant species with moderately hard,, to hard water, as well as in soft acidic condition's. Many I speak with on planted tank forum's, as well as a number of folks here,, have very lush planted aquarium's and R/O water is not needed to produce these result's.
Tank raised fish, or domestic strains, as they are sometimes reffered to, along with plant's ,,have over time,, evolved to adapt or they perish.
Wild caught strains can benefit from water produced that closer mimic's the condition's of water's (stream's,river's lakes) from which they are gathered, and This produced source water can benefit the spawning of these species .
Other freshwater species, adapt fairly well to clean feshwater enviornment's that we try to produce in glass box of water.
Keep the water clean through regular maint,water changes, and much less money spent on medication's and replacing fish,,or producing water which may or may not be needed.
Lot's of folk's convince themselves that they need this or that for the fishes to remain healthy, and many other's are told that they need it.

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Old 01-29-2012, 05:47 PM   #18
 
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alright thanks. i have a couple of questions for you.
is sand better than gravel ? i heard your supposed to have sand for saltwater ?
what filter would you recommend?
is it easy to use test kits?
are plants in the tank worth it or are ornaments better? if no plants then what would be good to put in tank?

and last i can get the 90 gallon tank with light/lid, heater, python hose and stand for $350

it looks like this

http://imgc.classistatic.com/cps/kjc...3252gj_20.jpeg


thanks for your help

If Hang on the back filter is consideration for this tank,, I would look at two filter's such as Aquaclear 110's, one on each end of the tank.
If I was looking to possible planted tank,, I might look at (1) Fluval FX5,, or possibly a couple eheim 2217's but that's just me. Much would depend on where I wanted to go with the tank, along with species of fishes to be kept therein.
Sand or fine pea gravel will grow plant's in freshwater.(Is this gonna be salt or freshwater?)
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Old 01-29-2012, 05:54 PM   #19
 
its gna be a freshwater tank, saltwaters to hard and costly
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Old 01-29-2012, 06:03 PM   #20
 
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alright thanks, if i want plants later on would sand/pea gravel or regular gravel from fish store be better ?
and also i was thinking of keeping sharks because they look sick, if i were to keep them what other fish would i be able to keep with them.
What type of shark's?
Many of them offered for sale for our tank's grow much too large and need tank's of several hundred gallon's to accomodate them into adulthood.
Other types of shark's grow increasingly territorial as they mature, and may limit the species of bottom swimming fish that could be kept if not kept in large enough tank's.
Red tail shark and to a lesser degree it's cousin, Rainbow sharks,, can claim an area of the bottom of the tank and make thing's rough for those fish that swim too close for their liking and some times they just give chase to other fishes cause they enjoy it?
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