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post #1 of 11 Old 01-18-2014, 10:42 AM Thread Starter
Another 180 gallon stocking question

So I have a 180 gallon with the following

6 Red Irian Rainbows 2 male 4 Female
4 congos 1 male 3 female - looking for 2 more males but no luck at all.
2 Pictus cats Sex unknown
4 yoyo loaches Sex unknown
1 not very aggressive electric blue Jack Dempsey - Male
1 non aggressive Electric Pink Jack Dempsey - Female
1 semi aggressive Electric Blue Acara - Male
1 tough ass little Pleco who takes no crap. Sex unknown

Is this it? - was looking at a red spot severum but I think 4 full size cichlids are probably too many.

Thoughts

Please not really looking for the "jacks are going to kill the tetras theme. The jacks have been in with tiny guppies and left them alone.

Thanks in advance.
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post #2 of 11 Old 01-18-2014, 03:19 PM
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U could get 3-4 bala sharks, and 2 more yoyo loaches because they like big schools.
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post #3 of 11 Old 01-18-2014, 03:23 PM
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Another 180 gallon stocking question

The pictus also appreciate larger schools. In a tank that big there's really no reason not to keep large schools of anything.

I would certainly look to fill out all your schools before thinking about adding more cichlids, but when the time comes you'll want to make sure that the new one is at least as big as the others. Don't want to add smaller cichlids of the same class. They are funny that way, you can mix larger and smaller cichlids, but a small bigger cichlid is gonna get it from the other bigger cichlids. In my experience the bigger species don't view small species as competition.
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125 - BGK, chanchito cichlid, pictus cats, silver dollars, palmas bichir
125 - cichlids (severums, bolivian rams, chocolate), rainbows ( turquoise, red), loaches (angelicus, zebra, kuhli and horseface), plecos (BN, RL and clown), denison barbs, tiretrack eel, pearl gouramis, betta
90 - Congo tetras, african knife, upside down cats, spotted ctenopoma, kribensis, delhezzi bichir
2.5 - betta

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post #4 of 11 Old 01-18-2014, 04:54 PM Thread Starter
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The pictus also appreciate larger schools. In a tank that big there's really no reason not to keep large schools of anything.

I would certainly look to fill out all your schools before thinking about adding more cichlids, but when the time comes you'll want to make sure that the new one is at least as big as the others. Don't want to add smaller cichlids of the same class. They are funny that way, you can mix larger and smaller cichlids, but a small bigger cichlid is gonna get it from the other bigger cichlids. In my experience the bigger species don't view small species as competition.
I really am getting discouraged about finding male fish,
I see Congos around but zero males. Same with the Red rainbows.

The pictus are such voracious eaters that any more will cost about $20 more a week in food. Those things are nuts.

I love the yoyos - out all the time and definitely not nocturnal. Never sleep or hide during the day.

I like the vibe of the tank and don't want to make things go from good to bad that's why I was asking

Thanks for the tips. I'll concentrate on the schools

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post #5 of 11 Old 01-18-2014, 06:25 PM
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Yeah the red rainbows are tough. Have you checked online?

The congos - I honestly don't think it matters what the sex ratio is. I've certainly paid no attention to it.

I have 8 pictus - you will definitely be feeding a larger quantity of food. That's the thing about getting into those bigger fish with bigger appetites - it's almost impossible not to "over feed". Get yourself a nice colony of trumpet snails and you should be good to go.

125 - BGK, chanchito cichlid, pictus cats, silver dollars, palmas bichir
125 - cichlids (severums, bolivian rams, chocolate), rainbows ( turquoise, red), loaches (angelicus, zebra, kuhli and horseface), plecos (BN, RL and clown), denison barbs, tiretrack eel, pearl gouramis, betta
90 - Congo tetras, african knife, upside down cats, spotted ctenopoma, kribensis, delhezzi bichir
2.5 - betta
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post #6 of 11 Old 01-19-2014, 10:52 AM Thread Starter
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Yeah the red rainbows are tough. Have you checked online?

The congos - I honestly don't think it matters what the sex ratio is. I've certainly paid no attention to it.

I have 8 pictus - you will definitely be feeding a larger quantity of food. That's the thing about getting into those bigger fish with bigger appetites - it's almost impossible not to "over feed". Get yourself a nice colony of trumpet snails and you should be good to go.

Im a little worried about snails getting into my overflows and tubing. They would be good for stirring up the sand.
I do I handle population control?
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Im a little worried about snails getting into my overflows and tubing. They would be good for stirring up the sand.
I do I handle population control?


How do I handle population control is what I meant to say

I think it's impossible to over feed the group of fish I have now. All food is gone in about 60 seconds.
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Im a little worried about snails getting into my overflows and tubing. They would be good for stirring up the sand.
I do I handle population control?

With canisters that's really no problem at all. I've only had problems with baby shells and HOBs.

They will regulate their own population based on the availability of food. If you have sand and have a ton of snails, you can simply sift them from the sand with a net. I had a tank that I grew a huge a huge colony because I was giving them away to people. All I did to harvest them was get a net full of sand and shake the net - sand falls through but the snails remained.

125 - BGK, chanchito cichlid, pictus cats, silver dollars, palmas bichir
125 - cichlids (severums, bolivian rams, chocolate), rainbows ( turquoise, red), loaches (angelicus, zebra, kuhli and horseface), plecos (BN, RL and clown), denison barbs, tiretrack eel, pearl gouramis, betta
90 - Congo tetras, african knife, upside down cats, spotted ctenopoma, kribensis, delhezzi bichir
2.5 - betta
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post #9 of 11 Old 01-19-2014, 01:50 PM
Figuring out stock for a 180 gallon? I wish I had that problem! lol but anyhoo, correct me if im wrong, but dont loaches eat snails?
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Some loaches eat some snails.

125 - BGK, chanchito cichlid, pictus cats, silver dollars, palmas bichir
125 - cichlids (severums, bolivian rams, chocolate), rainbows ( turquoise, red), loaches (angelicus, zebra, kuhli and horseface), plecos (BN, RL and clown), denison barbs, tiretrack eel, pearl gouramis, betta
90 - Congo tetras, african knife, upside down cats, spotted ctenopoma, kribensis, delhezzi bichir
2.5 - betta
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