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post #1 of 9 Old 12-09-2011, 04:44 PM Thread Starter
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I am thinking about adding a few more fish to my tank but not sure what and if i am able too, any advice would be appreciated...
here is what i have now

4 yo yo loaches
6 neon tetra
1 zebra danio
1 gold algae eater

I know the danio needs a few more friends but i am not wanting this species anymore so haven't replaced them and i am willing to trade in or re-home the gold algae eater. This is a moderately planted tank, i am continuously adding plants when i find them at my lfs There are plenty of hiding places with wood and rock caves. I keep the temp at 82 degrees and pH is 7.0 so anything that would work well with this would be great.

Thanks

55 Gallon
4 Yoyo Loaches
6 Neon Tetra
1 Zebra Danio
1 Golden Algea Eater

Plants
Lutea crypts
Anubias Barteri
Java Fern

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post #2 of 9 Old 12-09-2011, 08:10 PM
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I am thinking about adding a few more fish to my tank but not sure what and if i am able too, any advice would be appreciated...
here is what i have now

4 yo yo loaches
6 neon tetra
1 zebra danio
1 gold algae eater

I know the danio needs a few more friends but i am not wanting this species anymore so haven't replaced them and i am willing to trade in or re-home the gold algae eater. This is a moderately planted tank, i am continuously adding plants when i find them at my lfs There are plenty of hiding places with wood and rock caves. I keep the temp at 82 degrees and pH is 7.0 so anything that would work well with this would be great.

Thanks
if you get rid of the zebra danio and the golden algae eater depending on your tank size, you can add a couple of gourami's but large fish, maybe 1-2 -- small fish 3-4


-=+8 Gallon Planted+=-
Fauna:
1x Honey Gourami
2x Otocinclus Affinis
6x Flame Tetra
6x Ember Tetra
2x Apple Snail (Hitched on Rotala)

Flora:
Dwarf Sagittaria
Ludwigia Repens X L. Arcuata
Staurogyne Repen
Cryptocoryne lutea
Cryptocoryne Wendti
Cryptocoryne spiralis
Amazon Sword
Java Moss
Java Fern
Anubias minima
Water Primrose
Pogostemon Yatabeanus
Limnophila sp. 'mini'
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post #3 of 9 Old 12-09-2011, 09:29 PM
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I don't like big fish, but if you like the yoyo loaches I'd get 2 more just so they are happier. I'd add 6 more neon tetras and at like 5 more zebra danios.

Aqadvisor.com will help you. The site said that yoyo loaches wont mix well with the tetras but if you havent had a problem yet i wouldnt worry.
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I am thinking about adding a few more fish to my tank but not sure what and if i am able too, any advice would be appreciated...
here is what i have now

4 yo yo loaches
6 neon tetra
1 zebra danio
1 gold algae eater

I know the danio needs a few more friends but i am not wanting this species anymore so haven't replaced them and i am willing to trade in or re-home the gold algae eater. This is a moderately planted tank, i am continuously adding plants when i find them at my lfs There are plenty of hiding places with wood and rock caves. I keep the temp at 82 degrees and pH is 7.0 so anything that would work well with this would be great.

Thanks

Depends on what tank size you have.

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post #5 of 9 Old 12-10-2011, 01:13 AM Thread Starter
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I don't like big fish, but if you like the yoyo loaches I'd get 2 more just so they are happier. I'd add 6 more neon tetras and at like 5 more zebra danios.

Aqadvisor.com will help you. The site said that yoyo loaches wont mix well with the tetras but if you havent had a problem yet i wouldnt worry.
i haven't had any trouble with the loaches and tetras together and i do love the yoyo's I think i will definitely add 2 more, they are very entertaining. Is there are larger fish i could add instead of 6 more neons or would the bioload be too much?

55 Gallon
4 Yoyo Loaches
6 Neon Tetra
1 Zebra Danio
1 Golden Algea Eater

Plants
Lutea crypts
Anubias Barteri
Java Fern

HAPPY FISH KEEPING!!!
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post #6 of 9 Old 12-10-2011, 01:20 AM Thread Starter
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if you get rid of the zebra danio and the golden algae eater depending on your tank size, you can add a couple of gourami's but large fish, maybe 1-2 -- small fish 3-4

i have considered gourami but i have a pretty strong currant everything i have read says they don't really care for fast moving water, is this correct? I know that tetras don't really care for a strong currant but they don't seem to be bothered by it and swim the entire tank. This is a standard 55 gallon.

55 Gallon
4 Yoyo Loaches
6 Neon Tetra
1 Zebra Danio
1 Golden Algea Eater

Plants
Lutea crypts
Anubias Barteri
Java Fern

HAPPY FISH KEEPING!!!
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i have considered gourami but i have a pretty strong currant everything i have read says they don't really care for fast moving water, is this correct? I know that tetras don't really care for a strong currant but they don't seem to be bothered by it and swim the entire tank. This is a standard 55 gallon.
You're correct. I had a 90 gallon tank with a hydor 2 and a hydor 3 and they swam everywhere.

I'm trying to get back into freshwater aquariums again and i'm considering gourami's again.


-=+8 Gallon Planted+=-
Fauna:
1x Honey Gourami
2x Otocinclus Affinis
6x Flame Tetra
6x Ember Tetra
2x Apple Snail (Hitched on Rotala)

Flora:
Dwarf Sagittaria
Ludwigia Repens X L. Arcuata
Staurogyne Repen
Cryptocoryne lutea
Cryptocoryne Wendti
Cryptocoryne spiralis
Amazon Sword
Java Moss
Java Fern
Anubias minima
Water Primrose
Pogostemon Yatabeanus
Limnophila sp. 'mini'
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post #8 of 9 Old 12-10-2011, 04:13 PM
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The first thing that stands out to me is the very high temperature. None of the listed fish need 82F, this is the top of the temp range for the yoyo loach, and the neon tetra will not last long. You can read more in our profiles, second tab from the left in the blue bar or click on the name when it shades in posts.

I would suggest no higher than 77F due to the neons needing cooler water. The loach will be better too. The higher the temperature, the faster fish metabolize and aside from using so much unnecessary energy, they literally wear out.

Same thing applies to the water movement. Most forest fish occur in quiet-flowing streams and flooded forest. While they may seem "OK" with a current, this too is only wearing them out. They have to fight it night and day; imagine how you would feel having to constantly walk up a steep hill with no chance of a respite. Do what you can to reduce the flow; it will be better for the plants too.

Having settled the above issues, I agree to get rid of the algae eater; if you check this profile, you'll see they can get quite nasty as they mature, and your loaches will have some trouble if it remains. Increase the loach to 5 or 6, they are very social. And the neon to 9-10 or more. Shoaling fish are always better in larger groups, when space allows. You said you don't want the danio, so let the last one live out its life [the high temp is not good for this species either].

Gourami, depend upon species, and yes, the water flow should be reduced a lot. These fish occur in swamps and pools thick with plants. They are not active swimmers. Some can be aggressive though, check the species in the profiles. Also, in the loach profile it mentions that this species will sometimes nip the fins of slow fish, so Gourami might not be advisable anyway.

Hope this helps you.

Byron.

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Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
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post #9 of 9 Old 12-10-2011, 10:31 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks for all the great info. I will definitely start lowering the tank temp and get two more yoyo's. As for the algae eater he will be finding a new home very soon. I am still learning and really appreciate all the info this forum gives.

55 Gallon
4 Yoyo Loaches
6 Neon Tetra
1 Zebra Danio
1 Golden Algea Eater

Plants
Lutea crypts
Anubias Barteri
Java Fern

HAPPY FISH KEEPING!!!
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