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post #1 of 21 Old 02-27-2011, 01:33 PM Thread Starter
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56 Gallon Overcrowded?

Hello everyone, first post here (aside from my introduction post). I had a question regarding the amount of fish allowed in a tank. I know the general rule is 1 inch of fish per every gallon of water, but I heard there were special rules for angelfish and whatnot. Maybe someone can answer my question. Here is a rundown of my population: 4 Angelfish, 3 Albino Corys, 3 Tiger Barbs, 1 Neon Tetra, 1 Gourami, 1 Rubber Lipped Pleco.

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My question is: Am I getting overcrowded? I am figuring this much for each of the fish: 6 inches per angelfish, 2 inches per albino cory, 3 inches per tiger barb, 2 inches per neon tetra, 5 inches per gourami, 10 inches for rubber lipped pleco. So that would be a total of 55 inches.

Am I figuring correctly for the size of each fish? I don't plan on purchasing any more fish but I want to make sure I am okay right now.

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post #2 of 21 Old 02-27-2011, 05:10 PM
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I am new here as well so all you experienced people please correct me if what I say is wrong. From my limited experience the Gourami is possibly a fin nipper(depending on which one it is) and angels don't like that. Also the Neon will nip as well and is better suited for a larger group (ie 5 to 6 if not more). As the angels get bigger they will end up dining on your neon or neons if you get more. The cory's would probably also do better with a couple more as well. I cannot comment as to whether you are overstocked or not.

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Here is a really useful web site that I got from others on this forum: AqAdvisor - Aquarium Stocking Calculator and Aquarium Tank/Filter Advisor.
You always have to crank in your own judgment, but it was quite helpful to me!
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post #4 of 21 Old 02-27-2011, 06:27 PM
All tetras should be kept in groups of 6 or more. Gouramis are unpredictable and some won't nip, some will. And that looks like a 20 gallon, not 56 gallon. If it is a 56 gallon, your tank is not overstocked

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No you are not overcrowded. But your tetra does need to be in a school. He is lonely...

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From my limited experience the Gourami is possibly a fin nipper(depending on which one it is) and angels don't like that. Also the Neon will nip as well and is better suited for a larger group (ie 5 to 6 if not more). As the angels get bigger they will end up dining on your neon or neons if you get more. The cory's would probably also do better with a couple more as well. I cannot comment as to whether you are overstocked or not.
Thank you so much for pointing this out. So far no troubles but I had been considering more neons but I wanted to be sure I wasn't overcrowded first. The fish have been getting along quite well for almost a year now. The neon and the angelfish were a risk I was willing to take which is why I only got one at first.

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Here is a really useful web site that I got from others on this forum: AqAdvisor - Aquarium Stocking Calculator and Aquarium Tank/Filter Advisor.
You always have to crank in your own judgment, but it was quite helpful to me!
Thanks for the link. I will check that out right away.

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And that looks like a 20 gallon, not 56 gallon. If it is a 56 gallon, your tank is not overstocked
Definitely a 56 gallon. The dimensions of the tank are 30"w x 18"d x 24"h. The picture makes it look smaller but it is a column style tank so it is taller than most tanks of its size.

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No you are not overcrowded. But your tetra does need to be in a school. He is lonely...
Ok perfect, I just wanted to be sure before I go adding more fish for the neon. So far the angelfish hasn't been a problem and I read in more than a couple places that if they grow up together that they are usually friendly to each other. Maybe if I add about 6 more neons it will ensure there isn't a problem. The Gourami hasn't been nipping at any other fish. They all seem to get along pretty well and I don't know if that's because of all the hiding places or not. So far no trouble and I have had this setup for almost a year now and no troubles with the fish attacking or nipping at each other.

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I think you have serious problems waiting to happen. Rather than go into all that, may i suggest you have a read of the profile on each of the fish you have (all are in our profiles), and I think you will see what I mean. Profiles are accessed from the second tab from the left in the blue bar across the top of the page, or in posts if the exact name is used it is shaded and is a link to the profile, example Tiger Barb.

While things may seem fine now, they may not be to the fish. Compatibility is key to establishing a health community, and of far more importance than stocking guides.

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Glad I joined, too. Thank you Byron. Which profiles are you suggesting I take a look at? Or are you saying I should look at all of them? I noticed Albino Cory is not on the list...
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Tank looks nice! I opted for the long tanks when I get them instead of the tall as it looks like yours is. The larger surface area gives more conductive to oxygen exposure. Thus will hold a few more than a smaller surface area.

The neons are shoaling thus like larger groups to school in and be healthy. Schooling also limits their aggressiveness. They become more docile and happy.

I would do only one or two Angels as they can get aggressive during breeding. The barbs love to nip at angels appendages. Watch them and if aggressiveness occurs exchange two of them for some neons.

The Pleco will likely outgrow your tank after a while, or not live as long. The Pleco will also increase the oxygen demands of the tank. The Barbs can and do become nippers so both the Neons and Angelfish may be targets in the future.

If you are prepared to watch for these problems and take action as needed then you will do ok with current stock. Except the neon needs a school. I personally would not add more fish to that size tank. Especially with the Pleco in residence.

That is my experience with these particular types. And I used to breed them for the fish stores where I used to live.
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Watch them and if aggressiveness occurs exchange two of them for some neons.
When you say exchange. Do you mean to the pet store? Does petsmart or petco exchange or take fish if i wanna take them in? Ive never heard them doing this.
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