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Old 01-04-2008, 02:00 PM   #31
 
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i think the second or first choice would be good. i just think that it would be better to have cories to help with keeping the bottom clean(and they have great character!)
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Old 01-04-2008, 09:41 PM   #32
 
Do live plants do better in sand or gravel (I would think sand)?

I want to add sand, but wouldn't it be very hard to clean the bottom?
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Old 01-05-2008, 07:44 AM   #33
 
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i dont know much about live plants but i've seen some people who put some kind of special substrate(again i'm not sure exactly wat it is) in between 2 layers of the regular gravel. this way you can put the plant's roots in that and still have wat ever gravel u want.
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Old 01-05-2008, 12:14 PM   #34
 
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Do live plants do better in sand or gravel (I would think sand)?

I want to add sand, but wouldn't it be very hard to clean the bottom?
Depends on the plant - Vals do best in sand, but I have always had better luck with crypts and swords in gravel. Your best bet is to get a really fine gravel/large sand. Eco-complete is good, and seachem just came out with several different grades of fluorite that should be a lot better than the sharp red stuff that used to be the only choice.
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Old 01-05-2008, 08:46 PM   #35
 
Ok, but how would I clean the bottom? Wouldn't a regular Gravel Cleaner just suck the sand up?

I would need to know how I could remove the waste and uneaten food, without sucking sand up.
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Old 01-06-2008, 06:45 PM   #36
 
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Just hover the vacuum over open areas of sand. Don't worry about getting in the plants, and if you start to pick sand up, raise the vacuum a bit.

Also, to keep the sand stirred, throw in (and some people are going to call me an idiot for this, but it works for me) a half dozen or dozen Malaysian trumpet snails. I got them 10 a buck at my LFS. (If the population explodes, fish the extras out by hand and feed less.)
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Old 01-06-2008, 07:16 PM   #37
 
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Just hover the vacuum over open areas of sand. Don't worry about getting in the plants, and if you start to pick sand up, raise the vacuum a bit.

Also, to keep the sand stirred, throw in (and some people are going to call me an idiot for this, but it works for me) a half dozen or dozen Malaysian trumpet snails. I got them 10 a buck at my LFS. (If the population explodes, fish the extras out by hand and feed less.)
Ok, thanks for clearing that up.

I have visited a lot of places around town, and I can't find one with an Albino BN pleco, and much less a regular BN pleco. I think I may just ditch that and go for something else.

I have looked at Lepornius's the last few days, and the ones at my LFS is not the kind that gets up to 12" long, but it only gets up to 6" long. I do not remember the name, but it was placed in a tank w/ Tiger Barbs and they all were doing fine.

They also have very small Rainbow and RTBS. Which one would do better in a tank with Tiger Barbs and a Lepornius?

Ok, I really hope this is my final list this time.

-8 Tiger Barbs
-1 Rainbow Shark/RTBS
-1 Lepornius
-Mystery Snail and maybe Malysian Trumpet Snails
-Hopefully, Cherry Shrimp (Maybe 3 or 4)
-Array of Live Plants
-Black Sand or Regular White Sand, with a layer of gravel possibly.
-Driftwood and Rocks
-Hiding places for the Shrimp and Shark
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Old 01-06-2008, 08:11 PM   #38
 
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I have looked at Lepornius's the last few days, and the ones at my LFS is not the kind that gets up to 12" long, but it only gets up to 6" long. I do not remember the name, but it was placed in a tank w/ Tiger Barbs and they all were doing fine.
A survey of fishbase only turned up one Leporinus that sticks at 6" (L. maculatus), and it's spotted. The commonly traded ones, the ones with black stripes on a yellow background, get 1 foot long. If you saw otherwise at PetSmart, well, they are sometimes very very wrong about the size their fish reach. Honestly, I personally saw a Leporinus fasciatus last weekend that was all of a foot long.

There are several other species less commonly traded, but, with the exception of L. maculatus, they all get over 8".
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Old 01-06-2008, 09:56 PM   #39
 
I knew it wouldn't work. They are just so neat-looking.

I will need to add another fish/specie of fish then...

Suggestions please? I don't like the regular tropical communtiy fish, but I like fish that are a little more "exotic". Could i add any cichilds?
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Old 01-07-2008, 09:17 AM   #40
 
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If you're set on Tiger Barbs and an RTBS, then the only think I can think of that might work is to get a topwater fish to balance them out. I understand Asian Killifish are pretty tough customers. I'm thinking of the "Golden Wonder"/Blue panchax that show up pretty frequesntly, but I know little about them. I do know that they're not annual killies, so they'll last a couple of years anyway.

Anyone else care to jump in on these?
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