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Old 07-07-2012, 12:16 PM   #11
 
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The gravel is 2-5mm. Guess corys are out. I actually didn't get sand because it seems like such a pain to clean.
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Old 07-07-2012, 01:12 PM   #12
 
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The gravel is 2-5mm. Guess corys are out. I actually didn't get sand because it seems like such a pain to clean.
That sounds like what is termed pea gravel. I had it in one tank but got rid of it. It is smooth enough so the corys would be OK from that aspect, but they do love to root in sand and that is half the fun. Play sand is cheap, and you could always switch. "Cleaning" is not really necessary with plants and not overfeeding.
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Old 07-07-2012, 08:27 PM   #13
 
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The bag said river rock. I'll find a picture . . .
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Old 07-07-2012, 08:29 PM   #14
 
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Here is the gravel. Hope this pic works . .

Sorry, the camera was all wonky and I was laughing so hard I couldn't keep it still.

Dad: What are you doing?
Me: Taking pictures of rocks
Dad: *shakes head slowly and leaves . . .*
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Old 07-08-2012, 02:13 PM   #15
 
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Here is the gravel. Hope this pic works . .

Sorry, the camera was all wonky and I was laughing so hard I couldn't keep it still.

Dad: What are you doing?
Me: Taking pictures of rocks
Dad: *shakes head slowly and leaves . . .*
Yes, that size gravel is usually called pea gravel by aquarists, since the pieces are roughly the size of a green pea. I got some from a landscape place that called it "birdseye" and probably for the same reason, approxiimate size. It is not sharp, so no issues there. But the substrate rooting habit of corys would be next to impossible.

This type of gravel is excellent in a Central American habitat tank, or an Asian riverscape.
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Old 07-08-2012, 06:34 PM   #16
 
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The sand is so cheap though. I might as well try it. Good thing to try (watch me change all my tanks to sand :p) and if I dont like it wont kill me. Are these brands okay?
Search Results for*play sand*at The Home Depot
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Old 07-08-2012, 08:09 PM   #17
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The sand is so cheap though. I might as well try it. Good thing to try (watch me change all my tanks to sand :p) and if I dont like it wont kill me. Are these brands okay?
Search Results for*play sand*at The Home Depot
I can't really seak for those brands, as I don't know how they differ, if at all. I used Quikrete play sand. I thought t was from Home Depot, but didn't see it on the link. That means I probably got confused and it was from Lowes. Whatever kind you get just make sure you clean it, then clean it some more, or and clean it after that too.

Byron mentioned red lizard whiptails and I just have to say that is the favorite fish of all I own. I had trouble finding them and it wasn't cheap, but I still love them. Mine is even more outgoing than my corys. I lost one of mine right after shipping, and a second since then. The third is still around and ha grown nicely. If I could find more I'd replace my lost ones in a heartbeat.

Are you going to include dried leaves as well?
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Old 07-08-2012, 09:16 PM   #18
 
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The sand is so cheap though. I might as well try it. Good thing to try (watch me change all my tanks to sand :p) and if I dont like it wont kill me. Are these brands okay?
Search Results for*play sand*at The Home Depot
I would have to see those myself, not familiar with them. Home Depot here carries Quikrete, but I believe others have mentioned Lowe's too, so try there if you have one.

As long as it isn't white (The Quikrete is "tan" which is a mix of black/tan/gray/off-white). And, make sure it is inert so it won't alter the water chemistry. Q is inert.
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Old 07-10-2012, 01:20 PM   #19
 
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Thanks Byron!
Is Eco Complete or Flourite better? Or the same thing?
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Thanks Byron!
Is Eco Complete or Flourite better? Or the same thing?
No, very much a different thing. These are enriched substrates, at least supposedly; according to the manufacturers, they provide long-term release of nutrients to plants. I finally relented and bought Flourite for my 70g, and it cost me $180. I am not happy with the results, and in fact, this month I will almost certainly be pulling this tank down and replacing the Flourite with plain playsand which will cost me a grand total of $14 by comparison. I have had this tank running for over 15 months now, and the same species of plants are as good and in truth slightly better in my sand tanks. And I am having to add liquid ferts just the same in both. In my opinion, these products are not worth the money. And they are not good for substrate fish like corys; I still feel the sharpness of the Flourite with my hand when planting.

You'll find nothing less expensive than play sand, and it has no issues whatsoever for plants or fish.
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