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Old 07-25-2013, 01:52 PM   #11
 
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Received my floating plants and shrimp today. So, at least they arrived safely. I'll probably look around a little bit, see if I can't find some plants of the same quality as the stolen package. I'd love to get some like Dave offered me, but sooner than they'd be available from him again.
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Old 07-26-2013, 01:56 AM   #12
 
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Well sounds like things are taking a positive turn - glad that you got your floaters! It was LOVELY of Dave to offer to replace them when his grow out. . .but I'm sure you'll find something quickly. Just a shame it got stolen in the first place (though I'd still love to have seen the look on that person's nasty little face when they opened the package - to tankers, that'd be GOLD. Anyone else would be confused and disappointed.) Just a tiny setback - the tank has FLOWN together. I can't get over how quickly you pulled it together!

How are your test results looking, btw? Fingers crossed that all is happy! :) Looking forward to the next update!
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Old 07-26-2013, 12:47 PM   #13
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If that's a 35 gallon, then you're off on the height by a couple inches I think. 35 gallon talls are 30 X 12 X 22. You have the footprint of a 29 gallon, but with four extra inches of height. That has a chance to be a big possible problem for you. Some of the plants (like Rotala rotundifolia, which is what I think you meant when you said R. inclinata) could work in a 29 gallon with a single T8 bulb and correct placement. With the four extra inches of light, I'm not sure any stems will grow for you, especially not with the amount of floaters you need in your situation to even attempt a silent cycle.

Throw in the fact that the bulb you have in the meantime is too short and you have zero shot at silent cycling with all of those fish. That means you're going to be doing fish-in cycle. Seeded material will help, but it's doubtful at this point you'll be able to skip a cycle. If you take some media from say a betta tank, well that entire tank only has the bacteria needed to handle the bioload of one better. You have much more than that here. Not only is there not enough bacteria, but you're not taking all of it.

You're going to need to test daily and be ready to do water changes that often. Really not any other options until you're cycled. After that you can add slowly. Please don't rely on the plants to do the work, especially when you don't know yet whether they will grow for you.

One other thing, just random because it makes no difference in the care. Corydoras julii is rarely offered for sle. Normally it's. C. triliineatus being sold under that name. They look alike, but typically the julii has a spotted head while the trilineatus has a reticulated one. Couldn't really see well enough in the pictures to say for certain. Either way you have some pretty fish. Now you just have to make sure they stay safe. The shrimp too. Shrimp are super sensitive to new tanks.
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Old 07-26-2013, 01:06 PM   #14
 
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One other thing, just random because it makes no difference in the care. Corydoras julii is rarely offered for sle. Normally it's. C. triliineatus being sold under that name. They look alike, but typically the julii has a spotted head while the trilineatus has a reticulated one. Couldn't really see well enough in the pictures to say for certain. Either way you have some pretty fish. Now you just have to make sure they stay safe. The shrimp too. Shrimp are super sensitive to new tanks.
They are out there at the moment. I double and triple checked mine before I bought them. Plus my fish store is super technical and keep the common name and the scientific name on each tank. I bought my Julii's maybe 2 weeks ago. And from the pics here looks like LittleWaty lucked out and got them too. Hope they make it through the cycle.
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Old 07-26-2013, 01:07 PM   #15
 
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If that's a 35 gallon, then you're off on the height by a couple inches I think. 35 gallon talls are 30 X 12 X 22.
It is indeed a 35 gallon tank. It is an older tank, and as such has measurements that are not sold anymore. I've measured the tank 3 or 4 times. It is 36"X12"X20 - I just measured it again to make sure. Technically, it's 37.36 gallons, not 35.

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Some of the plants (like Rotala rotundifolia, which is what I think you meant when you said R. inclinata) could work in a 29 gallon with a single T8 bulb and correct placement.
Read more: http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/a...#ixzz2aAzIQBVZ

Right now I have two T5 bulbs in a T5 fixture. They're specifically plant lights, and are rated at 6500K. I think they'll be fine. On top of that, half of the plants in my list in the first post did not arrive because the package was stolen.

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If you take some media from say a betta tank, well that entire tank only has the bacteria needed to handle the bioload of one better. You have much more than that here.
It did come from a betta tank, but my bettas are not alone. And they are in much larger tanks than most people keep bettas in. The tank I took my bacteria from is a tank with 1 king betta (ammonia output of a goldfish), 5 zebra danios, and 5 otocinclus catfish.

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You're going to need to test daily and be ready to do water changes that often. Really not any other options until you're cycled. After that you can add slowly. Please don't rely on the plants to do the work, especially when you don't know yet whether they will grow for you.
I'm already doing this, as has been stated. I have been doing daily water changes of at least 50%, and have been keeping up with testing. This is not my first rodeo.

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One other thing, just random because it makes no difference in the care. Corydoras julii is rarely offered for sle. Normally it's. C. triliineatus being sold under that name. They look alike, but typically the julii has a spotted head while the trilineatus has a reticulated one.
They may be hybrids, but they're definitely not C. triliineatus. Just sayin.
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Old 07-26-2013, 02:47 PM   #16
 
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All we want is to do our best to keep those babies safe, and see a beautiful and thriving tank grow - only the best of intentions were behind any input originally shared. . . please keep it sweet!
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Old 07-26-2013, 02:55 PM   #17
 
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Thanks Chesh!

As for an update on the tank itself... it's really settling in! Added a bunch of extra java moss this morning to make it feel more lived in. All my fish seem to be be actually eating (some of my new fish before have decided to completely forego food for a few days before settling in), and my froggies are nice and fat XD Even Skinny put on some weight. Gargoyle now outweighs Tubby though!

Still looking around to see if I can't add more plants, as I'd like to fill out the tank more and replace the ones that were stolen. Checked Petco today, but they didn't have anything different from their last shipment.
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Old 08-01-2013, 01:07 PM   #18
 
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My driftwood finally came in! *dances* Going to pick it up now, and will hopefully have some pictures by the end of the day.
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Old 08-03-2013, 08:15 AM   #19
 
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Everything is going fantastic so far! I've been keeping up with water changes, and keeping nitrogen levels as low as I can without totally getting rid of them, so that the cycle can continue to work through. I think my duckweed exploded - it seems like I have twice as much as I did when I got them a week ago XD My wisteria and ludwigia are definitely growing, but my swords are taking it nice and slow.

The person I ordered my shrimp from got my order wrong, and only sent me 10 cherries instead of 20. I was told I would get a refund, but I haven't heard from them or seen any signs of that refund since it was brought up. I told them I would prefer to just have the other 10 shrimp instead of a refund, even if I have to pay shipping again. Still haven't seen any sign of that either. So... no idea what's going on there. If I don't get my shrimp early next week, I'll be contacting them again.

I also want to introduce you all to a cory that I've affectionately named Nemo. I bought him like this, and after further inspection, his problems seem more like a birth defect than nipping or water quality related. He's also the most active cory I have! He has a reduced anal fin and a reduced lower lobe of his caudal fin, as well as reduced barbels. It makes him swim a little funny, but he still gets around and finds food perfectly fine. It's a blast watching him buzz around the tank without a care in the world.
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Old 08-10-2013, 07:00 PM   #20
 
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The tank look really good - love that Manzanita! Glad to hear you're keeping up on those water changes and seeing good growth out of your new plants, lol, floaters will do that - especially duckweed. Does a great job at helping to keep that water clean, though - I put duckweed in all my new setups. . . :D Poor little Nemo, I'm glad he doesn't seem to be bothered by his little fins . . . and the missing shrimpies! You've had a difficult time with shipping :/ Hopefully you get that all resolved soon.
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