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Old 02-12-2014, 02:57 PM   #191
 
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I just found a brilliant idea to make dirting an established tank easy!
This is from SlappyMcFish on MAC
"Mix the dirt with a little water (enough to make a thick mud). Pour it in a shallow pan to a depth of about 1" or so and freeze it. You can do several smaller ones or one large one and cut it into squares (6X6", 8X8", etc).You can then take the frozen flat squares of dirt and place them in the tank by shimmying them under the substrate or moving the substrate aside and placing the frozen dirt on the tank bottom and recovering them with the substrate. Work quickly as the frozen dirt will begin to thaw immediately in the tank water."

To put this into work, just remove about 50% of your water to make working in the tank easier, remove all plants. Can also remove the fish if you want to and have fun in your substrate! I think I may use ziplock bags to make it easier for me.
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Old 02-12-2014, 03:04 PM   #192
 
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hmmmm wouldn't it be better to do it from scratch in an empty tank ?
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Old 02-12-2014, 03:27 PM   #193
 
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Maybe, but with the method above, I don't think I would have to remove my sand(which I'd rather not do.
It sounds really easy to do and almost seems fool proof.
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Old 02-13-2014, 06:45 AM   #194
 
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cool go for it, please report back how is goes.
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Old 02-13-2014, 07:36 AM   #195
 
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It sounds really easy to do and almost seems fool proof.
Those sound like famous last words :P
(...only teasing - I couldn't resist! >.<)

Of course you know by now that I'm always one to worry...
If you're using the miracle gro organic potting mix, it can and does release quite a bit of ammonia at first. If I'm remembering correctly, D.Walstad recommends this mix because it lists the ingredients on the label - and chicken poo is organic. lol, double check that, it's been a while since I read up on it before dirting the 20. I'd be pretty leery of adding it directly to a stocked tank, and would definitely want to mineralize it first to make it safer for the babies. . . if you plan to screen it, which you'll have to do to get the texture of mud, be prepared to lose a LOT of soil. I want to say I ended up removing at least half of each bag of soil - though what was left after was sooooo lovely and soft! I know both Boredomb and BWG have used this soil in their tanks, they might have more input for you, if you need it.
Good luck with the freezer method, if you go that route - can't wait to hear how it goes!
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Old 02-13-2014, 11:20 AM   #196
 
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I know there is likely going to be some ammonia showing up. But how much is a lot?

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Old 02-18-2014, 07:21 AM   #197
 
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Fishy! Sorry to be late getting back to this thread. . .

It really depends on the 'batch' I think, and the plants that you have. It won't be the same from bag to bag and tank to tank, I'd imagine. . . I'll see if I can poke on a couple of people who have done this with fish-in before to get you a more logical response (if you haven't found the info already)?

A lot of ammonia, with fish in, to me, is any. XP
I know that people do this allllll the time, I fret. . . I wouldn't without mineralizing the soil first. To me, it wouldn't be worth the stress that worrying over the tank would bring to me - even if everything was okay. . .

I'd love to see you try the freezer trick, though! Be awesome if it worked!
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Old 02-18-2014, 10:05 AM   #198
 
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Thanks Chesh! No I haven't found much more info on it. You'd think there would be more. :/
It seems like much more of a doable task to me since I'll be able to get one of those water changed thingys. It should make water changing a breeze and to the point that I'd probably wouldn't mind doing it daily for a coupla weeks to be on the safe side. Lol

I forgot to update here. But I lost one of my silver ghosts. Not the veil, the standard guy. He ate Friday morning and that evening he was listlessly at the surface gasping. Water tested perfectly fine and I wasn't injecting CO2. Everyone else was fine too. By Saturday morning he passed.
Weds I'll be taking my bff with me to a few fish shops since she's only picked out 1 angelfish. I figure she's due for 1 more pick ;)

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Old 02-18-2014, 10:22 AM   #199
 
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oh no that's so sad
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*hugs* I'm sorry to hear! T__T
Glad the others are doing well. . . and newbies are always fun!
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