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This is a discussion on Project Kindergarten within the Freshwater Journals forums, part of the Aquarium Photography category; --> Originally Posted by Nilet699 OMG your posts are so long! I read some, putting apizza in now, and nipping to the shop quickly, will ...

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Old 01-14-2013, 05:33 PM   #61
 
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OMG your posts are so long!
I read some, putting apizza in now, and nipping to the shop quickly, will read rest whn back......just thought id let you know that they are LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG!!!!!!!
HAHA!!! It's okay - I'm fully aware of the fact, and somewhat notorious for my 'books,' lol! You really don't have to read all of it, by the way. It isn't expected or anything. I use my threads to some extent for record-keeping, so I like to put a lot of details in, that way when I'm trying to remember something later I can easily find it again. Plus. . . I just love to write, and I type REALLY fast, so it's no thing for me to bang out a book in a moment - probably takes you longer to read thorough it! That said, I really do appreciate it when people take the time to follow my threads and leave me feedback, advice, and support in the comments. Really makes my day - so thank you - ALL of you! *luffs* Sorry I fail at being concise!

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Old 01-14-2013, 05:51 PM   #62
 
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Ug, Boxer - it really sounds like you've been put through the mill with illness in your tanks, I'm sorry to hear it, but very glad to know that all is well now. You're right, because 'Skinny Sickness' isn't *actually* a diagnosis, it can spread, depending on what the underlying cause is. . . I've had 4 deaths in the kindy tank - more than I've had in my home tank since my first month in fishkeeping - but though I suspect all of them are related, only two of the fish actually showed the same symptom, the other two are kind of mysterious. I'm just going on the assumption that they had the same issue, only it manifested in a different way that wasn't visible from the outside, because it's just too much of a coincidence for me. . . hopefully the General cure does the trick, but thanks for the input on what you used. I'll read more into the other meds JIC the course I'm on doesn't work. It's always good to learn things, even if I hope never to have to use it.

I think you're right, I really don't want to transport the poor boy, though I'm still torn on leaving him under the eyes of the kids or not, I'm also leaning toward the breeder basket. At least for a little while, maybe a week. . . if he makes it that long.
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Old 01-14-2013, 05:59 PM   #63
 
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I am so proud of your good work! I know that you have had lots of setbacks, but you have kept moving forward and that's the important thing. And the kids are learning! You deserve a big for what you have done!
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Old 01-14-2013, 06:01 PM   #64
 
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Froggy! Oh you know I love frogs. I got a new male frog who is sweet and sings. They're more likely to sing when there's no female I hear, so if yours is a male, (Honestly it looks like a young female from that angle, that's how two of my girls started out and I thought they were boys...), maybe he'll sing for the kids. =p

And I'm glad to hear your buddies are doing better. Appetite is always a good sign, but he still needs work, as you know. I think you can pull it off, or I hope so. It's more up to him now.

I'm trying to get my cory going. I have a little schwartz in QT with my betta, who are also in my QT being treated for pet shop filth. My little Schwartz just keeps getting thinner, and now he's not trying to eat. So I'm hoping a little baby brine shrimp will be small enough, and maybe get a little fat on him if it works out. He searches for the food when I put it in, but loses interest just before he gets to it, so I'm worried for him. =( Hopefully it'll pick up, I've got some broad spectrum antibiotics in there too. I've never had a sick cory before! @_@;
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Old 01-14-2013, 06:26 PM   #65
 
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I made it through it! lol. (the pizza was yummy btw. lol)

Another great post though! And most importantly it had pics....and you had a cookie

So glad Ol'Red is still alive and kicking! if he makes it through bet the kids will love him forever after all he's been through!!!
(yeah im naming him too!)

Theres been loads of other posts i need to catch up on now, so ima do that!
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Old 01-14-2013, 06:33 PM   #66
 
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How big is the breeder net? I would be afraid of them poking through the mesh at him...
He IS a beauty! I really hope he makes it :( That top fin is just gorgeous.

How/what are you going to feed the ADF? They are so cute, but I thought they were difficult to take care of...?

And I seriously am excited if you share the kindy drawings, I bet they're adorable :3
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Old 01-14-2013, 06:38 PM   #67
 
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Awww, Bluewind! *HUGS* What a sweet thing to say, thank you - and many smiles back to you!!!

Sylver, this little one IS a girly, you're right. I have another in the tank that's a male - these are in a tank away from MY ADF waiting to go into the kindy tank. My plan is to give them their 3 months of QT there, so that I don't accidentally bring any froggy illnesses in. I haven't decided if I'm going to send over one or both frogs to the Kindy tank - or ANY at this point. It depends first on how things go with the sickness. I'll put one in first (if we get to that point), and if all goes well, add the second in. It would be adorable if the kiddo's got to hear the male singing, but their little voices are soooooo soft, I really doubt that they'd hear it, anyway. 22 five and six year olds can make quite a bit of noise, lol! It's different in a home tank in a quiet room.

I just adore these little frogs, and I KNOW the kids will flip for them, and fall just as in love as I did. How could you NOT?! I also got them an Apple Snail, even though I'm kind of against putting them into tropical tanks, in this case. . . I'm making an exception!
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Old 01-14-2013, 06:51 PM   #68
 
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You are welcome hun!

My little nephew is facinated by my mystery snails (a smaller type of apple snail)! He watches the biggest more than the fish! It's so cute. Btw, a cheap trick to get it some extra calcium is to take a cuddlebone (in bird section) and grind it up fine (will stink btw). Put it all in a zippy for later. When you need to use it, take out a pinch and put it in a bit of water in a cup. Put the waffer (broken to the size you need it to be) in the water and let it soak up the water and cuttlebone dust while you feed everyone else (I use waffers because anything else will just get messy and complacated). Then, drop in the waffers. I do this once a week to every other week. They were kind of confused that first time, but now they love it!
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Old 01-14-2013, 07:16 PM   #69
 
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Haha, good for you, Nile! You made it through all. those. words. *giggle* I DID have a cookie... it was awesome, and I bet it was better than your pizza! Mr.Red is actually dead, sorry - he's the one that was found behind the breeder net - it's Sunny that we're trying to save, lol. I may have typed that backward, whoops...

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How big is the breeder net? I would be afraid of them poking through the mesh at him...
He IS a beauty! I really hope he makes it :( That top fin is just gorgeous.

How/what are you going to feed the ADF? They are so cute, but I thought they were difficult to take care of...?

And I seriously am excited if you share the kindy drawings, I bet they're adorable :3
Jen, the breeder net is one of those that hook onto the side of the tank, it's basically a plastic frame with a mesh 'bag' tied onto it. I'm more concerned about him being stressed by the lack of space, but maybe it'd be good for him to hold stillish for a bit and recover. The only time I've ever had an issue with anything getting through the mesh at a fish inside was when I had a guppy who was a notorious jumper. She hopped in over the top of the thing, which was about an inch above the water line! Its not very big at all... it's made for keeping tiny fry guys safe - 6.5 x 5 x 5 if I remember correctly. They do make bigger ones, I might have to look into getting one of those, instead. Or. . . it wouldn't be *too* difficult to make a larger frame, I suppose. Hmmmmm. . .

@ Sylver - how big is your big one? Do you remember what it cost/where you got it? Do you like it?

Isn't he beautiful? The Hi-fin Platy are really stunning, I believe they're a crossbreed with swordtails, but I might be misremembering that. Some of the kids call him Sunny, the rest call him Florida because they painted pictures of palm-tree silhouettes in front of an orange and red sunset - the color blending reminded them of their fish. . . the kids are so cute! I have MY kid's sunset picture here I could show you - then you'd get it, lol. I'll definitely have to upload some of their artwork for you if you want to see it. It IS adorable.

As for frogs, I can talk about THEM for days on end, PM me if you want more info. They really do best in a species-only tank because of their feeding habits - if kept alone, they aren't difficult to care for in the least. But when they're in community with fish it can get tricky. If/when I put frogs into the Kindy tank, I'll be making it clear to the class that *I* alone will be feeding them. I'll have to use either a turkey baster or hand-feed, as they're very slow eaters, and even slower to FIND their food. With greedy live-bearers around, chances are that they'd starve to death if not very specifically target-fed. ADULT frogs (which these aren't, yet) can be fed every other pr even every third day, and I've always fed mine a varied diet of bloodworm, brine, tiny bits of raw tilapia, mysis, krill - all of that yummy wet-frozen good stuff. There are sinking pellets designed just for aquatic frogs, but out of the four frogs I've owned, not ONE of them has ever recognized that these are food. . . if I pre-soaked the pellets and hand-fed, I could probably get them to eat 'em. . . even if it was by accident! But yeah, they *can* be tough to keep in a community. The good thing is that they're SMART, and they learn very quickly where the food is coming from, so can be trained to go to a certain spot for it, etc. They're really adorable and lovely little creatures, though. I LOVE my froggy friends. :)I'm as obsessed with ADF as I am with my loaches and Rams, so you know. . . that's love!
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Old 01-14-2013, 07:23 PM   #70
 
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Nice trick, Bluwind! The kids could really help out and get into it if we do it that way - thanks for sharing!

My main concern with Apple and/or Mystery snails (both are common name for several species of snail from the Ampullariidae family - most often, I see Pomacea sp. kept in tanks. Mine have always been Pomacea diffusa) - aside from the calcium content in my very soft water - is that they really do best in cooler temperatures. They can live just fine in tropical tanks, but the heat speeds up their metabolism, and makes them. . .be. . . faster. They move faster, eat faster, and their life-span is much shorter in warm water than it would be if they were in a temperate tank. I LOVE them, though. They're really fantastic little snails (well, they CAN get pretty darn big!), I've kept them and Nerite snails, and while I love both, the Apple/Mystery snails are so engaging, because you can see their little faces and those long antennae - they really have great little personalities! I decided when my beautiful blue Mystery Snail died (You can see some snaps of my gorgeous Mayla in the My Tanks tab under Becoming - 29g tank *REALLY have to update those - EVERY one of those tanks has grown - Becoming is now a 55!) died, that I wouldn't get another until I could keep them in the right temperature so they could live to a nice old age. . .but. . . the kids really would adore these guys, so I caved and got one. :) I just hope I can get this illness gone from the tank so that we can do all of these fun new things I've been planning for them! Frogs and Snails and leaves. . . it's supposed to be FUN! No good being worried about sick fishies *sigh*

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