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post #81 of 106 Old 03-26-2014, 05:06 PM
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Give me your parameters and I could make you a list that wouldn't involve cichlids. No offense, but they are plenty of hard water fish in this world that don't live in the Rift Lakes. Making a list doesn't mean you have one or two things, it means you know what will work for you. Again not trying to be rude. I know you want to be heavily stocked and I have zero problems with that. There's a difference between heavily stocked bioloadwise and having fish that need a bigger tank, not just because of size but also activity level. Plenty of fish that have a relatively low bioload but still need more space than a 10 gallon provides like zebra danios, kuhli loaches, silvertip tetras, etc. It's your tank and you are of course allowed to do as you wish, I'm just trying to help you out.
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post #82 of 106 Old 03-27-2014, 08:43 AM Thread Starter
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Ph 8.4
GH/Kh 14-16
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post #83 of 106 Old 03-27-2014, 08:45 AM Thread Starter
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My filter just crapped out after a power surge (along with the PlayStation). Hopefully my cycle isn't destroyed by tomorrow night when I can get a new one.... No schoolers this paycheck now.
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post #84 of 106 Old 03-28-2014, 05:04 AM
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No problem, Flint. It takes a long time for the bacteria to die...like months.

There's this advice that you should never, ever turn your filter off. But I'm willing to bet that, once your tank is cycled and established, you could turn your filter off every night with no noticeable difference or harm to your livestock.

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post #85 of 106 Old 03-28-2014, 06:59 AM Thread Starter
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I got it working again, thankfully, but it's good to know. I've always heard 4 hours and you're screwed.

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Question - What exactly defines an established tank? A tank that has been cycled and running for at least 6 months or is it a parameter thing?
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post #86 of 106 Old 03-28-2014, 08:35 AM
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When a tank is cycling, the bacteria grow first and fastest where they are exposed to the most nutrients in the shortest time. That's not necessarilly the optimum distribution. There are other considerations like light, current, mulm and detritus, plant growth and such. After several months the bacteria grow into the tank in a more balanced distribution. The tank cycle becomes less vulnerable to crashing. Removing substrate or filter media for seed is not as detrimental. Having a broken filter is not serious. Mini-cycles from adding stock are not as shocking.
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post #87 of 106 Old 03-28-2014, 10:06 AM Thread Starter
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Ok, thanks for clearing that up!
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post #88 of 106 Old 03-28-2014, 02:48 PM
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Your pH is certainly on the basic side. The dGH isn't a problem since many fish occur in that range. The trick will be combining those two things along with a 10 gallon tank.

The small tank size means we should eliminate things like rosy barbs (6.0-8.0, 5-20 dGH), cherry barbs (6.0-8.0, 2-20 dGH), Odessa barbs (6.5-8.5, 5-20 dGH), gold barbs (6.0-8.0, 2-20 dGH), pearl danios (6.0-8.0, 1-20 dGH), zebra danios (6.0-8.0, 5 -20 dGH), blind cave tetras (6.5-8.0, 5-25 dGH), black widow tetras (6.0-8.0 but preferable lower than 7.0, 5-20 dGH), white cloud (6.0-8.5, 5-20 dGH), silvertip tetras (6.0-8.0, 5-20 dGH), pristella tetras (6.0-8.0, 2-20 dGH), glassfish (6.5-8.0, 8-20 dGH), emerald Brochis (5.0-8.0, 2-15 dGH), bronze cories (6.0-8.0, 2-15 dGH), rainbowfish (too lazy to list them all), Inle loaches (7.0-8.0, 12-20 dGH), forktail blue eyes (7.0-8.0, 15-30 dGH), Asian rummynoses (small but combative 7.0-8.0, 10-20 dGH), most livebearers (again too lazy and you know the ones easily found already), ok I think that's enough there and hardly exhaustive since I did it off the top of my head.

So what would I suggest for a 10 gallon with your parameters?
Guppies
Endler's
Rosy Loaches (you'll see 24" suggested, I'd feel better about putting a slightly more than 1" fish in a 10 than anything in the above paragraph though)
Emerald Rasbora (Seriously Fish differs in the pH range from here listing up to 8.0)
Scarlet Badis
Red Dwarf Rasboras
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post #89 of 106 Old 03-30-2014, 10:25 AM Thread Starter
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The only thing in that list I can get are guppies and I am not a livebearer fan.

Starting to re-consider the pandas. I keep watching videos of them and they are so freaking cute!
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The only thing in that list I can get are guppies and I am not a livebearer fan.

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Oh yay ! I'm not alone with my random livebearer dislike !!

I'm so bad that I had a nightmare that Jaysee was writing out the stocking list for our 225 and to my horror THERE WERE A TON OF LIVEBEARERS on the list hahahaha ( not kidding .. This really was a nightmare)


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