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post #91 of 106 Old 03-30-2014, 10:33 AM Thread Starter
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I like mollies and will eventually do a 20L molly tank but that's beside the point. Guppies, endlers and platies get on my nerves lol.
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post #92 of 106 Old 04-05-2014, 02:16 PM Thread Starter
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We have another planned trip to the fish store next weekend to pick up some shoaling fish. Is it safe to assume my cycle can withstand the addition of 7 small fish? I had wanted to pick up the otos, too, but I want to make sure my cycle can withstand the additions before I go doing that. The nerite I added doesn't do any cleaning what-so-ever, I'm going to scrape the algae off with a razor today during my WC.

On another note, the cousin's tank crashed, everyone is dead and she's convinced she smells chlorine in the tank and is taking water to our LFS even though she already dumped out the tank water and washed out the tank and I ran my test kit on the water the fish died in and the ammonia reading was off the charts of my API master. (Same kit the LFS uses....) She had 1 DG, 2 nerites, 1 mystery snail and 6 neon tetras in a 2.5 gallon unfiltered tank that had a couple stem plants but no light and the window light wasn't barley enough to keep them alive. She came home same day with another fish, though - this time a betta and a sterilite bin to keep him in until the LFS tests her unused water for the same things I did. Can you tell I'm frustrated?
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post #93 of 106 Old 04-06-2014, 08:49 AM Thread Starter
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Do female bettas and DGs get along? I was considering this -

1 DG
1 mystery snail
3 female bettas
3 otos?
5 panda cories
7 shoaling fish

I am doing my tests pre-water change today (the first one ever on this tank) and everything is still reading 0. Going to do about 25% and scrape the algae off the glass so I can actually see my fish again.
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post #94 of 106 Old 04-09-2014, 07:28 AM Thread Starter
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*5 shoaling fish

I'll start with 5 and feel it out from there.
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post #95 of 106 Old 04-09-2014, 01:27 PM
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I think adding female bettas to the set up would be asking for trouble.Sororities can and have failed, and when they fail its not a pretty picture.
Id also worry about aggression from/to the DG.
Otos really are shoaling fish and prefer a decent amount of current in their water. Many people just add them willy nilly as an after thought to their set ups for algae control, but they do have preferences.
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post #96 of 106 Old 04-09-2014, 02:36 PM Thread Starter
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I've got quite a bit of current from my filter. It flows pretty strong. The nerite I added a couple weeks ago is finally starting to get active and clean a bit, though he doesn't touch plant leaves which is where I need the most help.

As far as the bettas go, I've had many successful sororities. Not to mention I don't work so if something started to happen, I'm here to fix it. I'm going to test the waters as far as girls/my DG go.
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post #97 of 106 Old 04-09-2014, 04:31 PM
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Just a couple quick observations.

No one can tell you your planned stocking is good, not without lying. Shoaling fish is so broadly defined and vague in this instance that it is useless from both a bioload and a compatibility perspective. It may be good, it be not. We have no clue.

I'm against the purchasing of a snail, shrimp, or fish if it's solely for a job. There are ways to get rid of algae that don't involve otos. I'd look for what is causing the imbalance and thus the algae and fix it. As I believe someone else said somewhere on this thread (jaysee?) I don't think a 10 gallon is going to be big enough to support a nerite and a shoal of otos. Newly imported otos can be finicky when it comes to food. All this is also assuming that the type of algae you have on the plants is a type eaten by otos.

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post #98 of 106 Old 04-10-2014, 08:31 AM Thread Starter
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I wasn't planning on keeping the nerite in the tank and that was decided after Josh made that suggestion. He will be moved in with my betta and wouldn't be in there at the same time as the otos if I decided to get them, hence he isn't on my stock list. The algae I'm dealing with is brown algae or diatoms which I know otos eat. It is so bad I can't see my fish in a matter of 3 days after scraping the glass and it's starting to choke out my crypts. I dose Flourish twice a week and have my lights on from 8am to 6pm every day which is already shorter than I'd like seeing as I'm up at 6am and go to bed around 8pm.

I'm probably going to end up with cardinals as far as shoaling fish go.
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post #99 of 106 Old 04-12-2014, 02:00 PM Thread Starter
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I just got back from petco/the lfs. I picked up three female bettas at petco, then went to the lfs and asked for 5 neons. Also picked up 3 otos to see how they do (they were cheap) as the snail isn't eating anything anymore. He's being moved in with my betta now. Well, I got home, opened the paper bag to see a bag of 3 otos and a bag of 5 small cherry barbs. The real kicker is my LFS doesn't take returns! They're going in for now until I figure out what to do with them. They're small right now at least, about 3/4". That's what I get for trusting them when they're busy.
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They should take the return when it's their mistake.

3 bettas and a DG in a 10 gallon?

125 - BGK, chanchito cichlid, pictus cats, silver dollars, palmas bichir
125 - cichlids (severums, bolivian rams, chocolate), rainbows ( turquoise, red), loaches (angelicus, zebra, kuhli and horseface), plecos (BN, RL and clown), denison barbs, tiretrack eel, pearl gouramis, betta
90 - Congo tetras, african knife, upside down cats, spotted ctenopoma, kribensis, delhezzi bichir
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