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This is a discussion on Our new 55 gallon within the Freshwater Journals forums, part of the Aquarium Photography category; --> Originally Posted by KPainter Play sand typically runs $5 - $7 bucks at most hardware stores. I figured it was cheap lol. I just ...

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Old 09-10-2013, 09:10 PM   #21
 
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Play sand typically runs $5 - $7 bucks at most hardware stores.
I figured it was cheap lol. I just honestly didn't think it would be that expensive at Petsmart. I know our local hardware store doesn't carry any. Menards is right down the road from college though, so it should be easy to check them out unless my dad is in a crunch for me to pick up my son. But if all else fails I can probably bring him back out there with me later and we can search

How much area of sand should I put in the tank? Should I just cover the gravel? Or should I remove gravel from the whole area and just fill it in with 3 inches of sand?
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Old 09-11-2013, 07:41 PM   #22
 
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So sad. I held back on plants at Petsmart because I was waiting on a medium size water sprite that I ordered. I finally emailed asking when it would ship (because I ordered Friday) and got a kinda rude email back saying they emailed asking if I wanted a refund because it was too hot so they weren't going to ship it at all. If they decided they wouldn't ship it, why would you have to ask about a refund? Either way, I never got a message from them, so I waited a week for nothing. I love the look of the water sprites, but I can't find any except for online. I guess I won't be able to get one if no one will ship to me, very disappointing. I wonder if this would be for all plants? Or just those?
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Old 09-11-2013, 09:25 PM   #23
 
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If you're in the mood and up to the work, I'd say do the whole tank in sand. Also don't be afraid to order plants online. I've picked up some great stuff on EBay.
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Old 09-11-2013, 10:33 PM   #24
 
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If you're in the mood and up to the work, I'd say do the whole tank in sand. Also don't be afraid to order plants online. I've picked up some great stuff on EBay.
I could probably do it. Sounds like a project for when I can get my parents to watch the little man.
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Old 09-12-2013, 09:57 AM   #25
 
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PH has been steady at 8 since yesterday afternoon. I have changed out 2 gallons so far with distilled water. Thinking of heading into the cities today to check out what Petco has, but I'm pretty sure OH is sick of me spending his money on fish stuff lol.
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Old 09-12-2013, 02:10 PM   #26
 
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Tanking is sooooo addictive, and fish stuff sure does add up quick!

I can send you some WS if you want, I have extra. Send me a PM if you need it still. It can be a fussy plant in shipping, but most sellers will ship in insulated packages through the summer, you just have to pay an extra dollar for them sometimes. . . s/he should have let you know before you had to ask about it, though!

I think switching out to sand is a great idea, but keep an eye on those parameters if/when you do! In more established tanks, I've seen people just bucket the fish and do it with no problems, but when my tank was new, I actually used nylon 'bags' (lol pantyhose!) and kept the top layer of the old substrate in the water for a week or so to be 100% POSITIVE I wasn't going to mess with the bacteria too much. I tend to be super nervous about my tanks, though ^.^

Very happy to see that everything has evened out with the Ph flux and toxins in the water there! The 55 is on its way!

. . . Bored brings up a really good point about the water softener. I know some types of water softeners essentially pull out the minerals calcium and magnesium using resin beads. The softened water goes out to the taps, and the beads are flushed with a brine solution to recharge them for the next round of softening. Unfortunately, a decent amount of sodium ends up in the softened water. I'm sure this varies from unit to unit, but it was enough that my aunt had to start drinking bottled water when she was put on a low-sodium diet because of the salt in her softened tap water! I'm not 100% clear on how this works, or how it affects tanks (so double check this info!), but have read a lot of conflicting information as to the safety of that particular type of softening when used with freshwater fish (for obvious reasons!). If your landlord uses a Ro unit, that's ideal, but I don't *think* its the standard? Not entirely positive, but definitely encourage you to look a bit farther into this matter!

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Old 09-12-2013, 02:16 PM   #27
 
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Tanking is sooooo addictive, and fish stuff sure does add up quick!

I can send you some WS if you want, I have extra. Send me a PM if you need it still. It can be a fussy plant in shipping, but most sellers will ship in insulated packages through the summer, you just have to pay an extra dollar for them sometimes. . . s/he should have let you know before you had to ask about it, though!

I think switching out to sand is a great idea, but keep an eye on those parameters if/when you do! In more established tanks, I've seen people just bucket the fish and do it with no problems, but when my tank was new, I actually used nylon 'bags' (lol pantyhose!) and kept the top layer of the old substrate in the water for a week or so to be 100% POSITIVE I wasn't going to mess with the bacteria too much. I tend to be super nervous about my tanks, though ^.^
Aww! That is very sweet of you :) I'll send you a pm!

I am getting excited about the sand, but I'm curious if it would work if I removed half of the gravel and just added sand to it. I have small pieces of gravel, and they are smooth for the most part that I've noticed. They are all natural stones, not the colored pieces. I think a mix of like 60% sand and 40% small gravel would like nice, but don't know how practical it would be.
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Old 09-12-2013, 02:18 PM   #28
 
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The sand will just sink to the bottom. Unless you're talking about separating the two? Like one side gravel, one side sand?
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The sand will just sink to the bottom. Unless you're talking about separating the two? Like one side gravel, one side sand?
Hmm, ok. I need to decide on one side to make sand anyway, but I was hoping to use some of the gravel since I just bought it all lol. *sigh* I'm not sure what to do with all the gravel either. I'll have to do some more thinking on this.
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Hmm, ok. I need to decide on one side to make sand anyway, but I was hoping to use some of the gravel since I just bought it all lol. *sigh* I'm not sure what to do with all the gravel either. I'll have to do some more thinking on this.
I actually plan to divide my new tank when I get it here (240g) to have a small gravel area. I want to do that because it's hilarious to watch my clown loaches digging in the gravel ..they pick up the gravel and exuberantly toss it to the side then stick their head back all the way in the hole and keep doing that. Anyway..my point is you can create a divider with tank safe wood or large smooth rocks then one side sand other gravel. The Corydoras will really love the sand and it just looks so nice in an aquarium.


(I'd like to add..I would highly doubt the accuracy of the erratic reading you were getting for KH, GH and PH from your strips. Likely you didn't have a swing in that at all..was just faulty strip results. API also sells a liquid KH test kit which I have one of. KH is what would cause the swings in your PH so maybe grab that when you're at the petstore too..or order it)
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