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Old 01-23-2013, 04:14 PM   #11
 
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So you water change with fish IN their tank?
I put my fish in buckets when I water change.
Somehow it would seem to me that being removed from their home into a bucket is going to be much more stressful than having someone go in, drop the water level, do some cleaning, and top the water back up. Of course I don't know your fish personally so I can't say really which stresses them worse.

I always cup my hand over the intake of my hose when I do a water change to prevent any fish from going on a water ride. I've got fish that think it's all sorts of fun to check out the hose and follow me while I clean, and or pick at my arm hairs thinking it's food.
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Old 01-23-2013, 04:23 PM   #12
 
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Hah!

Yes, some of us still change the water. Until the tipping point is reached in this regard, water will still be changed in aquariums around the world. I don't think that will happen anytime soon.

So, you and BBob are in cahoots?

Do you have any shots of your tanks? I'm always curious to see other setups, particularly if they use some different (non-standard) keeping methods.

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My previous 90g tank (no water changes):

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Old 01-23-2013, 04:27 PM   #13
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My betta tank doesn't need water changes. But I do em to vacuum up SOME shrimpie poo and wipe down the algae on the walls.
My aim is to have my 75 gal get like that.

I've always put my fish in buckets because I didn't want to risk hurting them with the vac. And for some unknown reason I feel like putting them in their buckets is less stressful than watching something strange going around their home and feeling the water drastically changing. Even tho I KNOW that both would likely be equally stressful.
Fish are pretty nimble and are extremely unlikely to be harmed by the vac... i doubt that you could hurt them intentionally with it, not that you would try. If in a small tank and they don't have anywhere to hide... sure, I could see them stressing. I would think that being swallowed by a net would be more stressful than hiding from the vac though.

I can just hear them thinking "oh f$%^, oh f$%^, oh f$%^... I'm done for now", twice every time you do the pail trick. If you think about which you would rather in your home, not that we can really compare ourselves to fish but, imagine avoiding the vacuum cleaner from room to room or someone chasing you around the house to catch you and stick you outside in a large box instead. I'd pick option A every time.

After seeing Oscar doing his surfing and the barbs hanging around wondering when it is their turn, I don't think they notice any real difference in the water... a couple of degrees of hardness when it's already around 20 aren't going to be an issue.

It boils down to each their own and whatever works as I am sure we could argue the advantages of anything we do that is different than the other all day long and nobody would be wrong.

Look at BBob, he keeps poking his 2 cents in every chance he can get, not too many agree with him but he's not wrong.

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Old 01-23-2013, 04:32 PM   #14
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My previous 90g tank (no water changes):

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Nice.

I love that splash of red plant just off center.

What's the substrate? It almost looks like black or dark brown mulch. How long was that tank going to that point?

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Old 01-23-2013, 04:38 PM   #15
 
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It was a soil substrate topped with black sand (which eventually just mixed in with the soil which became a big mess anytime I had to do maintenance on the tank). It was running for about 1.5 years before I moved out of the apartment for a year leaving the gf in charge of it. Let's just say after getting back, I've had to restart it from scratch. I'm going to operate it pretty much the same this time except I'm using ecocomplete instead of soil. I got it up and running about 3 weeks ago.
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Old 01-23-2013, 04:44 PM   #16
 
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Actually, i dont net. My fish calmy swim into a cup or tubberware and get lifted into their bucket.
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Old 01-23-2013, 04:49 PM   #17
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Actually, i dont net. My fish calmy swim into a cup or tubberware and get lifted into their bucket.
Well, there you go. I make an assumption and it is totally wrong. I will admit that your method is certainly no more stressful than mine... like I said each to their own and whatever works.

I cannot see my fish doing that, but they are fine with the extra activity in the tank.

I still wonder what a fish thinks when you net it though, that can't be fun. I bought a large easy catch net figuring that I might need it someday and would hate to not have it. It still hasn't seen water let alone fish.

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Old 01-23-2013, 06:29 PM   #18
 
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I cannot see removing fish from a tank at every water change. The only time I do it is with my betta because he is in such a small tank (2 gallon). 10 gallon and up the fish stay in. They are not bothered by the vac and many of them I actually have to gently shoo away because they are trying to peck at the specs of debris going up the tube. When I had cories they were a pain following the vac around. Lol
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Old 01-23-2013, 06:59 PM   #19
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Damn. I just scrolled up to see what the heck this thread started out as only to fond that it was mine.

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Old 01-24-2013, 08:21 AM   #20
 
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LOL! That lil' Betta looks like he's having a wonderful time and enjoying every moment of his water change! LOVE that video!

As for the rest, most fish are smart, as well as being evolutionary geniuses. If they weren't able to adapt quickly to new situations, there simply wouldn't be any left! Perfect example is a fish trained to swim into a cup for a water change - or happily 'riding the current' as the tank fills. I often wonder what the effect of a net is on the fish, too. I leave my fish in the tank for their water changes (even in the small Betta tank), but they've become so accustomed to me being a part of their world, that they don't shy away at all. Most of them even eat from my hand - and 99% of the time, when I DO need to catch them, I use my hands instead of a net. It's easier and less stressful for me and the fish, it seems :)
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