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Old 12-02-2010, 09:15 AM   #21
 
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Kymmie, That is tough to answer at least for me.
Well, you just confirmed what I suspected. Since I pulled out all the plants they have been "jukey". I had two friends over for dinner last night and when one of them walked up to the tank they made a mad dash to escape the approaching intruder, but there was no where to hide. One of them actually hit the side of the tank in her frantic attempt to get away. When the plants were in the tank they were fine no matter who approached the tank.
I remember reading on another forum about a guy who had his female (of a breeding pair) hit the side of the tank so hard she died on the spot! When no one is around they are perfectly fine with me approaching and thay all make a mad dash to be front and center. I suppose I could go hardscape and then simply ban all visitors to my home?? LOL.
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Old 12-02-2010, 11:15 AM   #22
 
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Well, you just confirmed what I suspected. Since I pulled out all the plants they have been "jukey". I had two friends over for dinner last night and when one of them walked up to the tank they made a mad dash to escape the approaching intruder, but there was no where to hide. One of them actually hit the side of the tank in her frantic attempt to get away. When the plants were in the tank they were fine no matter who approached the tank.
I remember reading on another forum about a guy who had his female (of a breeding pair) hit the side of the tank so hard she died on the spot! When no one is around they are perfectly fine with me approaching and thay all make a mad dash to be front and center. I suppose I could go hardscape and then simply ban all visitors to my home?? LOL.
I would love to do the same thing with mine but just as your experience went, the one time I took all of the plants out the discus were terrified of everyone but myself. Even my wife whom the see every day! IDK im starting to think that unless there captive bred and raised in such a way as to go with a hard aquaskape they will be afraid without plants and places for them to hide. On another note just a quick question for the experts here, Do you guys think that discus fare better in a natural planted tank or without the plants. Ive been toying with the idea but im a little standoffish about taking the carbon out of my filtration system so the plants can thrive. I guess im really just asking if you guys think they would be more healthy in a planted tank or in one with fake plants and solid filtration.
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Old 12-02-2010, 11:30 AM   #23
 
Ok-- the problem here is that you've had them completely used to one setting and then gone and changed it and expected their behavior to remain the same!

If the fish come into the hardscape oriented setting from the beginning, this will usually not be the case!

I seldom keep discus planted tanks anymore because either one or the other usually suffers. But I am a perfectionist and into aquascaping probably more than straight "fish-keeping", so the overall appearance and impact of the aquarium in the space, in the photo, throughout- is more my concern.

So no, don't expect to change the envirnment of existing fish and have them just adapt seamlessly.

My friend Heiko Bleher featured this layout of mine in his most recent DiscusBook:


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Old 12-02-2010, 11:34 AM   #24
 
Please understand too that I am not ever not offering the fish a place to retreat to-- even in the hardscape-only aquascape. Remember as well that where discus come from in the wild, there ARE NO AQUATIC PLANTS. It is essentially a "hardscape" environment where the wood provides cover, not plants.
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Old 12-02-2010, 11:35 AM   #25
 
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Hey, where did the pic go???
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Old 12-02-2010, 11:37 AM   #26
 
It keeps disappearing! Not sure what the deal is. Does this site offer image hosting? Didn't see it. When I go to edit the post it's there, but refresh the page and it's gone???

VTonic- my discus tanks (and I have many-- just look at my website) all do much better in non-planted tank. We are able to keep the water quality pristinely clean, and feed a far more varied and rich diet that would make a planted tank into a real mess. And I am not talking people with a plant tank with 3 discus in it. These are tanks with 9, 12, 15 specimens. Feeding and overall chemistry/water quality become a far different issue. So I don't need from the guy with a 55 gal planted tank and a pair of discus saying "mine do great with plants". That's not what I am talking about.

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Old 12-02-2010, 12:30 PM   #27
 
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It keeps disappearing! Not sure what the deal is. Does this site offer image hosting? Didn't see it. When I go to edit the post it's there, but refresh the page and it's gone???

VTonic- my discus tanks (and I have many-- just look at my website) all do much better in non-planted tank. We are able to keep the water quality pristinely clean, and feed a far more varied and rich diet that would make a planted tank into a real mess. And I am not talking people with a plant tank with 3 discus in it. These are tanks with 9, 12, 15 specimens. Feeding and overall chemistry/water quality become a far different issue. So I don't need from the guy with a 55 gal planted tank and a pair of discus saying "mine do great with plants". That's not what I am talking about.
Ya I figured as much. The more I research about going to a "natural" aquarium the more I tend to shy away from it. I know that there are many benefits to it but in my 125 I currently have 6 with some of other fish in it as well. The end game goal for me is a shoal of 10-12 discus and basically what I have in there now. It just seems that with a planted tank withought carbon style chemical filtration there are just one too many variables im not completly in controll of for my taste. I also have a small 10 and a 30 in my office that I may try to go natural on but I think as far as my display tank ill keep it the way it is.
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Old 12-02-2010, 12:57 PM   #29
 
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Jeff, I went to ADG and looked through your fresh water portfolio and all I can say is that you Sir do some incredible work! Its all verry "zen" like if I can use that term. I myself am a Dallas native but currently with my job I am required to live in Nv. Hopefully sometime soon ill be able to get back home, probably the houston corpus christie area and be able to see some of your work in person. Just fantastic my friend bravo! Though I will say that I am more interested in the fish than the current habitat Hey we have to stick to what we do well rite?!
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Old 12-02-2010, 12:59 PM   #30
 
Thanks very much and hope you can make it here someday. We are getting ready to launch an all new retail concept store that will be unlike any aquarium retail experience out there.
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