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Old 02-28-2013, 10:53 AM   #71
I love the loaches that I currently have, and while I know kuhlis don't act the same, you guys have me sold on wanting them. I was always under the mistaken impression that I'd never seen them if I got them. Doesn't seem to be the case though.

That percentage does seem high to me. I mean you think you'd see more oddball species than if it was at 40%. Of course I've never bought one kuhli, let alone a hundred so I have no clue.

I really, really hope kuhlis are not becoming endangered or scarce in the wild. I could easily point someone to just as many people selling panda loaches (Yaoshania pachychilus) right now as kuhli loaches. Panda loaches are very rare, extremely hard to collect, and expensive. The cheaper fish should be easy to find!

Frank said he has to look at them head on because for him P. kuhli has a thinner face. He also said though that banded kuhlis are so variable that it's hard to say for sure.

I wouldn't say I have any good dwarf fish connections. I've been looking for Hyphessobrycon heliacus for the last year. I would say I wouldn't have bought mine if I knew I couldn't get a proper group, but that's probably a lie since I would have felt bad for them. I've never seen H. takasei for sale anywhere. Both of those guys are from Brazil...coincidence or something to do with exporting fish from that country? I really need to increase my knowledge of people that raise fish. While not the case for Pangios, you would think someone somewhere in the US is breeding Hyphessobrycon species. lol Don't even get me started on some of the Corydoras species I'd like to find. Apparently I can't like a nice normal easy to find fish.
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Old 02-28-2013, 11:11 AM   #72
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*giggle* Kuhli loaches *SHOULD* be nice and easy-to-find!!!

Intersting hearing his thoughts on the difference between the two. I'd really have to see what he meant, though. My larger loaches, sold as P.Kuhli, probably P. semicincta all look SO different. I can't imagine how you'd be able to pinpoint something like a thinner face on them. Some of them are thicker, some thinner, some shorter, some longer, lol. I have NO problems telling the 5 I have apart. . .

I'm quite in love with your little hovering loaches, too - I'd love to get my hands on those at some point. I don't think they'd go in Becoming very well, but. . . *LUFFS* I've never had a fish-type loach, and always wondered at the similarities and differences between the two - but I think YOUR lil' dudes are something different altogether.

I think P.Kuhli must be very shy if kept in the wrong conditions, and that they must usually be to get that rep. I started with THREE alone, and they never ever hid. Izzy had a bit of a different experience with her Javas, they were a bit on the hidey side when she first got 'em

Sooooo. . .back on track, are you any closer to actually having a list of who's gonna live in this tank, ultimately?

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Old 02-28-2013, 11:35 AM   #73
There's so much variation in Pangio species that I'm not sure how he tells the difference, just like you said. Seriously Fish and Loaches Online both have pages for kuhlis that look different, but they have no clue what they are. Even species like P. oblonga might be as many as four different species. I guess as an owner it doesn't really matter what species you call your striped or brown loach as long as you enjoy it and it thrives in your tank.

lol Why don't you think the hovering loaches would go well in Becoming? Too many fish already on the bottom? They do spend some time there. They are super peaceful and really not hyper, at least mine aren't. The feeding time frenzy of kuhli loaches is something I never see with my guys. I have them in with Dario hysginon with absolutely no problems if that gives you any indications. The Dario bother each other way more than the loaches do. I've even seen the two feeding side by side. Yeah this was all me starting to turn the tables!

The ultimate list? Umm maybe? I have the top choices. Ideally I'd do Boraras naevus, a dwarf loach, and either Burmese rosy loaches or Hengles rasbora. The rasbora might be better since then I could slightly stain the water. Not sure if that would bother the rosy loaches.

The status of the sand is...drum roll please...shipping soon! No idea why, but I'm beginning to think it's not shipping soon. Just a gut feeling. Either that or the fact that it's said that for almost the last two weeks. lol Didn't think I had started a thread too early. Don't worry lurkers *waves to lurkers* they will be pictures eventually. Not saying they will be good, but their will be pics!
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Old 02-28-2013, 11:56 AM   #74
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GURG!!!! You need to pester those fools, or cancel the order and go through WayFair or I got mine REALLY fast through them.

Well, yeah. . . the bottom of my tank is pretty darn full right now, and I just really get the feeling that my rams would NOT like them very much. Rams tend to hover around toward the bottom of the tank, too. . . I could be wrong here, but my gut instinct is that it wouldn't be a good matching. They're REALLY COOL fish, though. I'm definitely interested in owning some one day :)

Heh. Lurkers. You know all about lurkers, don't you? Hiding in the shadows, never a word spoken. . . *harumph* Well. . . FORGET the lurkers. *I* want some pictures, lol! And videos! MAKE IT HAPPEN! What's your sister doing this weekend? I think ALL of your tanks need updated photos taken. And Granny's too! ;)
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Old 02-28-2013, 01:25 PM   #75
I got the other sand fast, just not the second purchase. Not much point in canceling it either. It says it will ship by Monday. Will see. Either way I'm not totally impressed.

The hovering loaches like to swim midwater too, but you do have plenty going on at substrate level. One day I wil be able to really upgrade and have those guys and kuhlis together with maybe some other loaches.

lol My sister is working this week. She works retail and so does my brother-in-law the driver of that family. He works overnight as well so finding any time that the three of us have off at the same time is tricky. Seems to be holidays that I get to see them. I'll try and take some pics tomorrow, but there's really not much to show.

Don't bust on the lurkers! Don't let all the tattoos fool you I'm a shy guy.
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Old 02-28-2013, 01:56 PM   #76
Link I found that I thought you guys (ladies) would like.

Are you ready for the challenge of breeding the kuhli loach?
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Old 02-28-2013, 08:18 PM   #77
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Oh, LAWD don't tempt me! I'm just finally getting some tanks shut down. . . now I'm gonna have to set them ALL back up as BREEDERS!!!! *giggle*
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Old 02-28-2013, 08:28 PM   #78
Just think about the greater good you would be able to do though with breeding! Sharing all the loachy love with others, helping to save a possibly dwindling species!

Being on this side of temptation is a lot more fun. :P
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Old 02-28-2013, 08:38 PM   #79
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You suck. And that's not how it'd work. What would end up happening is that I wouldn't give my loachy clan to ANYONE! I'd hoard them, because (almost) nobody is good enough to raise my babies. Plus I'd get all attached. I'll share with you, though. And Izzy can has some loachbutts. . . the rest will go into tank after tank after tank. I'll be like on that show, Hoarders. The Kuhli Loach Hoarder. . .

No, what would *REALLY* end up happening is. . .NOTHING! Because if it were really that easy to breed loaches inc captivity - it would happen more!
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Old 02-28-2013, 08:53 PM   #80
I'm not saying they are easy to breed, just not impossible. How many people actually set out to do it?

I like the idea though of you being the kuhli loach hoarder. If you're going that route though you should add a Pokemon vibe to it as in "Gotta catch 'em all".
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