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Old 02-23-2013, 12:00 AM   #41
 
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What's the difference in mud and dirt?? I guess I should say how do they prepare the "mud" different then dirt??
Oh sorry Blackwaterguy we have kinda highjacked your thread talking about dirt.

Rosette swords were what I moved the most. I can't remember what else I moved now but there were more.
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Old 02-23-2013, 12:10 AM   #42
 
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I started a thread. . .Dirt, mud, and caps. . .
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Old 02-23-2013, 12:24 AM   #43
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lol Now I don't know where to reply!

Mud and dirt...same thing to me. I know plenty of people just take dirt from their backyard or a forest or wherever. Once it's in the tank it'll be mud anyway. Dirt is probably easier to transfer plus judge how deep it is.

I've seen pictures of soil tanks that were so filled with muddy water you couldn't even see the fish or plants. That was with a sand cap too! Can't imagine anyone who loves watching their fish as much as you do Jes enjoying that!

I uprooted some stargrass before to move it and the roots were crazy long. That's a stem plant. I couldn't even imagine the trouble and time you went through to move swords!
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Old 02-23-2013, 12:38 AM   #44
 
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The root systems on the rosette swords at the time weren't huge. They were still big but not to bad. Now when I went to put them back in the tank I would always cut the roots down so I didn't have to mash them back into the soil as bad.

When I broke down the tank I had an Amazon sword in there that had a HUGE root system like 3/4 of the. tank. When I pulled it out it took half the dirt around out with it.
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Old 02-24-2013, 04:52 PM   #45
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Not completely about the new tank and not about the substrate..but I have a Malaysian trumpet snail! I had thought all of them had died since I've only seen empty shells. I can't keep them alive in one of my other tanks, never tried the second, and thought they were goners in here. After water change though there was one crawling along the surface! It's the little things that make me happy.
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Old 02-24-2013, 05:08 PM   #46
 
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Haha I think its nearly impossible to kill these guys. Though I do find that they are more incline to come out when there is no threat. They are all over my my tank now but when they Apple snails were in the tank I never saw them. Though don't know fish you are keeping in that tank but am guessing nothing big enough to be threating to MTS.
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Old 02-24-2013, 06:29 PM   #47
 
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HUZZA for MTS!!! I have these in all of my tanks, if you want a few more, I'd be happy to send some over. I'm actively shutting down tanks right now, so have some to share, bonus that I put a bunch in a plant-only tank around a month ago to QT them for someone else. But there are more in that tank that were already in there, so lemme know if you'd like me to send some your way! Willing to bet you have more than you think, though, lol!

I'm kind of with John, they ARE indestructible! What do you have in your tanks that would be 'doing in' the MTS? Your water is softer than mine, do you try to feed them with calcium-rich foods to help them keep their shells strong? That may be an issue. . . otherwise - LOACHES!!!

I don't know if it's the loaches or the rams, but in Becoming, and ONLY in Becoming, I actually DO lose MTS. It's almost always the littler ones, guessing their shells aren't as strong, or that they're too foolish to hide when a fish comes cruising by, but I actually have to grow them out in other tanks before putting them into the 55, or they WILL be picked on. . .

Thanks for your thoughts on the difference between soil and dirt. After doing some more reading, and getting a lot of replies on my other thread, I think you're right about that. Once you actually go through the mineralization process and sift out all of the chunks in the topsoil, you end up with . . . normal dirt! Lol, it sounds so duh, but. . .what do I know about stuff!!!?
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Old 02-24-2013, 07:24 PM   #48
 
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Congrats on the MTS!! I always thought those things were indestructible until you! Most of us always have some extras, so if you need more just ask!

PS. I've been watching this thread for a while now but since I'm not "dirty" (hehe I'm funny) I didn't post.
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Old 02-24-2013, 09:30 PM   #49
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I scoff at the term indestructible when it comes to me and snails. Apparently the way to rid yourself of infestations is to let me take care of your tanks. My 29 gallon has zero snails. Zero and I added pond snails and MTS both more than once! I can understand the nerites dying in there I guess, but pond snails and MTS?! The couple ramshorns in my 10 gallon also died.

I have seen one of my loaches gator rolling an MTS when they were in there. I don't know that it was successful though, as they aren't known as snail eaters. If they were probably even with a snail bias would want them.

I didn't feed the MTS anything. Honestly I didn't think they lived long enough to even eat. The last time I added them to my 29 gallon they were all dead the next day, didn't even seem as if they moved. I felt bad enough for killing snails (yeah I'm a softy) that I vowed not to put any in that tank again.

I wonder if it's the ferts? I had thought about that before and think I asked both you thekoimaiden and boredomb about it. I know all three of you guess use Comprehensive instead of my dry ferts. Maybe if I get more trumpet snails I should buy some Comprehensive instead. I've seen other people that dose like me and have snails though so I have no clue. Just happy I at least have the one.
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Old 02-24-2013, 09:53 PM   #50
 
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Yeah... it IS really weird, I agree with you there. Even the dry ferts doesn't make sense. Maybe it has to do with how you're raising your Gh? But people do THAT and have snails, too *scratches head* Did you ever do a test on the metals in your water? Could be that?

I'll send you some MTS if you want 'em, tho - no issues there :) I'm a softie, too - but sheesh! These snails will live in a JAR. I don't get it!

For the record, neither the wormy loaches nor the rams are known for being snail eaters, lol. I'm sure something's going on in that tank, though - and I will continue to blame them!
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