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Old 02-20-2013, 09:49 PM   #21
 
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Hrm... wonder why I almost always see that these guys need a 20? Probably because of water quality issues, which - I've always done really well with maintaining a full stable cycle in tiny tanks, 5, 3, I even had some guppy fry in an insanely stable 1 gallon 'tank' at one point, lol! But I don't NEED any more tanks! I'm trying to shut down some of the ones I have so I can focus what time I have on my bigger one - plus no space for those I have already!

I'll try to ship you some of the dwarf loaches, I've told you this! Never shipped fish before, though. . . it's always the shipping that gets you, isn't it? Around $50 for overnight delivery. . . it's only worth it if you get a LOT of fish at one time, but you really have to be ready for the sudden increase in bioload. I've only had fish shipped to me one time - that was my Jelly Bean Tetra. They all came through perfectly, but I was super nervous about it!

I'm SURE you could do wonderfully with the Licorice gourami, and I'd love to see you get them. I'm assuming that you have those available locally? You have that fantastic fish shop fairly close to you. . .I'm so jealous! Have you ever asked them if they'd order in some of the other types of fish you're looking for? I bet they would!

Byron has ridiculously soft water, too - he also has to buffer his Gh up to help keep his plants thriving. If you post in the plant section, he'll help you out - he's very active over there, and I'm sure there are others that have the same problem that you do. . .

pretty little Licorice gourami . . . hmmmmmm! Decisions, decisions!
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Old 02-20-2013, 10:49 PM   #22
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Perhaps what you saw was for a group? Byron's profile says 15-20 gallons for a group, but that a pair can be housed in 5-10 gallons. The Parosphromenus Project echoes that as well. That site is a good read if you're curious about them, or just a nerd like me. Both of them recommend floating plants to help with water quality, so that helps a great deal with water quality.

I know from talking to Byron that he has even softer water than I do. His profile says licorice gouramis need water less than 8 dGH. He does his research so I am willing to believe him. So water quality isn't an issue. I still keep coming back to how endangered they are though. I'd kind of feel irresponsible keep them and not breeding them because of it. You know what I mean? It's a project I want to do someday, but it will have to be in the future when I have space for grow out tanks, etc.

That Fish Place is nice, but surprising I've only gotten my rosy and kitty tetras there as well as my Corydorus sterbai. My red lizard whiptail I got from the Wet Spot. That was my first time shipping fish. I think in total I spent $115 for three fish! That's part of why I'm waiting to order from there again until I get fish for multiple tanks. The worst part is one of the three disappeared within three days, never to be seen again. The rest of my fish (all the Boraras, the loaches, and the Darios) have come from a local lady that specializes in small fish. That has spoiled me in shipping costs (not to mention the free fish). When the weather is warm I pay $8. At the beginning of January it cost me $12 because of the weight of the heat packs. I don't want to order in cold weather again. I've lost 5 fish either as DOAs or within a few days of receiving them. Four of those were in the 2 cold weather shipments. We are talking 4 out of 14 vs 1 out of 38. Huge difference there. She does sells licorice gouramis though.

I wouldn't even begin to know who to ask to order fish in for me. The size of That Fish Place is just huge. It's not like when there was an LFS around here and I knew the owners and they knew me. The local lady I get my other fish from? She doesn't like kuhli loaches. They creep her out. lol I'll give her a pass though, because otherwise she has great taste.

If you sent me loaches though I couldn't joke about stealing your's! Your's are like movie stars! I've seen the videos.
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Old 02-20-2013, 10:57 PM   #23
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Forgot to add. The one bag of TMS (aka sparkle sand) arrived today. Took me about 5 minutes to get it clean. I really like the color of it. I also saved that bio-magnetic clarifier that came with it. I'm convinced that thing is empty, but I kept it anyway. Even if it's not empty I doubt I will use it as I don't want to put something in my tank, unless I know just what it is and what it does.
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Old 02-20-2013, 11:15 PM   #24
 
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LOL! I've never used, but also have kept, those darn clarifiers, too! Don't know why I'm so compelled to keep the things, as I have absolutley no intention of ever using them. . . maybe some day I'll have a real NEED to clear a tank on the quick, and be desperate enough to 'trust' a chemical to do it for me? *shrugs* I opened one once, just to know - it's not empty, filled with a clear liquid. . .lol. Glad you like the sparkle sand! Obviously, I do too - and now I feel less nervous about giving a rave review - I was nervous that you'd hate it, and blame me, lol!

Thanks for the link. I'm curious AND a nerd. There are SO many amazing fish out there. . . right now I just need to keep focused on the ones I have, and to be fair - they've been pretty darn entertaining lately - even more so than normal! But that said, I do enjoy reading everything I can get my hands on. Even if I'm not going to keep them (any time soon), I love to learn about them. :D

Jealous of your local breeding gal - that's awesome, bummer that she's skeeved by loaches, but not *too* surprising, a lot of people are. Oddly enough, those people also tend not to like snakes very much ;) Worth giving TFP a call. . . I'd think! Define local? If I could get them shipped to you for that little. . . you're only 2 hours away! It might be worth a try. . .

. . . movie stars. . . heh.
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Old 02-21-2013, 03:11 PM   #25
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There can't be very much liquid in that clarifier pack. I even rolled it up like a tube of toothpaste to check if something was in there. I've yet to experience any sort of cloudy water that didn't go away quickly on it's own, with the exception of play sand that I thought was clean. Learned my lesson there after filling and siphoning a 40 gallon tank half a dozen times lol.

The rest of the sand still has not shipped. I got it from a different seller, because they actually combined shipping and were from PA. I figured it would get here faster. It might have if it ever left the warehouse. It might only be next week that I get to start changing things over. That might work for the better though, since next week is supposed to be warmer. That'd help if I'm ordering plants. TFP is also having a sale next weekend and somehow I managed to get a Saturday off out of luck. 25% off all the plants and fish, so I was planning to get myself some more cories. When I bought the tank I didn't see a huge variety of crypts, most just four different wendtii forms. I have to do so comparison shopping then because even with the discount I think I could get them cheaper online without going to too much trouble searching. The ones I have now all cost me a dollar a piece before the shipping was added on.

That lady is about 50 miles away. According to Google maps, an hour an 10 minutes or so. lol I actually thinks she likes loaches, provided they aren't kuhlis. I've never kept a snake, but my reasons are different. I've kept plenty of rodents and having a snakes would probably freak me out with a God complex or something. I'd wonder why some rodents get to live happily while I was buying others to feed. I'm a little weird though.
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Old 02-21-2013, 03:50 PM   #26
 
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Haha! I think we're fairly similar - I'd have trouble feeding snakes, too - feeding LOACHES, on the other hand. Well. . . that squirmy pile of cute just brings me to my knees every time!

Maybe your lil' bag is SO small/empty because. . . *snicker* it's only meant to clarify a 5 pound bag! *GUFFAW* I think its worked out well in a way, tho. Even if you have to wait patiently for the rest to arrive, you at least got a chance to be SURE you wanted it - and apparently PLENTY of time to cancel the order - before the bigger bag(s) arrive :)

So tell me how you've got your substrate set up, ALL about it. . . I'd love to hear your experiences in dirt tanks, as I'm *considering* setting one up at some point. . . you said you use the Miracle-Gro organic potting mix - is it just that with sand on top? I want details :)

Why am I the only one commenting on this thread? It's gonna be an awesome tank. I guess I'm just a dork - I LOVE watching other people's tanks grow!
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Old 02-21-2013, 05:15 PM   #27
 
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Haha! I think we're fairly similar - I'd have trouble feeding snakes, too - feeding LOACHES, on the other hand. Well. . . that squirmy pile of cute just brings me to my knees every time!

Maybe your lil' bag is SO small/empty because. . . *snicker* it's only meant to clarify a 5 pound bag! *GUFFAW* I think its worked out well in a way, tho. Even if you have to wait patiently for the rest to arrive, you at least got a chance to be SURE you wanted it - and apparently PLENTY of time to cancel the order - before the bigger bag(s) arrive :)

So tell me how you've got your substrate set up, ALL about it. . . I'd love to hear your experiences in dirt tanks, as I'm *considering* setting one up at some point. . . you said you use the Miracle-Gro organic potting mix - is it just that with sand on top? I want details :)

Why am I the only one commenting on this thread? It's gonna be an awesome tank. I guess I'm just a dork - I LOVE watching other people's tanks grow!
LoL Because Jes you like to talk. Everyone just sits back and listens and waits for the finish product and then comments.
Jes this is the soil

There are different ways of preparing it to use in the tank and how he is going to do it or how he has done it maybe different. I have used it by simply pulling out the big objects and then dumping it into a tank and wetting it a lil before putting a cap of sand over it.
Oh and I agree with ya Jes this is going to be an awesome tank when he is done with it. I may not be talking as much as you but I have been following it and will continue till he is done with the thread.
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Old 02-21-2013, 05:53 PM   #28
 
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Haha! No offense intended, darlin'!

Sorry I'm sooooo chatty ;) It isn't just that I like to talk, I just am really excited to LEARN, too. . . chances are that I'll never have ALL of the tanks I'd love to, so it's neat to learn from others' experiences, and get their POV - I'm entirely too eager to learn all there is to know about aquariums. And I'm sure the fact that I'm surrounded by a sea of 2 and 3 year-olds all day doesn't help much ;)

Not meaning to hijack the thread, but did you/do you like the soil better than sand? Or just the same to you?

I promise. I'll be quiet(er). . . try, anyway. I get too excited :D

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Old 02-21-2013, 06:09 PM   #29
 
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Haha! No offense intended, darlin'! Sorry I'm sooooo chatty ;)

Not meaning to hijack the thread, but did you/do you like the soil better than sand? Or just the same to you?

I promise. I'll be quiet(er). . . try, anyway. I get too excited :D
LoL I wasn't telling ya that you need to be quiet/quieter. Talk all you want!! I was simply answer your question about you being the only one committing.

I had good growth out of my soil tanks especially from my crypts at the time. I guess its all want you like or want.
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Old 02-21-2013, 07:29 PM   #30
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You guys have way more faith in my ability to put something good looking together than I do, that's for sure.

I'm going to write a long book on the whole short history of the tank so you can get all the backstory, Chesherca. I think Boredomb knows it all too well since whenever I got overworried over nothing he was one of the people that needed to tell me to calm down. I always bug out with any new method, until I've done it myself. One of the reasons I do something new every time I set up a tank.
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