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Old 04-19-2007, 12:38 AM   #31
 
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Any gravel will grow plants. More mature tanks with some crud in the gravel works even better. So over time, a regular gravel tank will get better and better.

My gravel is Eco Complete. Kind of spendy, but very good.

Also, for plants like crypts and swords, I still recommend using root tabs, even if using a plant substrate. They just do better that way. So if you get Eco or regular gravel and decide on some swords or crypts as some of the plants, get Flourish Root Tabs. The plants will love you for it.

Also, if you keep the lighting at around 1.5w/g-2w/g, no need for CO2. If that helps at all.
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Old 04-19-2007, 12:41 AM   #32
 
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Also for gravel vacs, if using Eco or other plant substrate, only suck any ugly stuff from the surface of the gravel. Don't do deep gravel vacs. If using regular gravel, do deep gravel vacs in all open areas, but not so deep around the plant roots. Leave some of the crud in there for the plants. But I would deep gravel vac the rest, just so you don't end up with anaerobic pockets forming under the gravel.
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Old 04-19-2007, 10:45 AM   #33
 
Thank you so much that helped a huge amount. I have been researching trying to find info then I found this website its been a huge help. Thanks again.
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Old 04-19-2007, 10:54 AM   #34
 
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you seem very knowledgable about planted tanks so i have a question you might have experience with. In our planted tank we have 2.6 wpg, diy co2 and quite a few fish. we are kinda recovering from a bit of an algea outburst (a bit of spot and maybe fuzz) our nitrates stay at about 20 usually and we try to keep our phosphates at 1-2. we just found a source of potassium that will do for now. we got a jar of potassium nitrate. Ok, that's just whats going on in our tank. The question is we have a cryptocoryne wendtii and some of the top leaves are turning a bit black. I'm sure this is a sign of something but i don't know what. we add ferts with trace elements like iron magnesium, etc. our lights are on for 9 hours a day (we have a timer). do u think maybe this is to long of a light period? our other plants seem to be doing ok, though one of our plants Alternanthera reineckii has turned completley red instead of red on bottom and green on top of leaves. That i read is from high light. Anyway, if you have any suggestion i'ld be grateful. we're trying to do all we can for our plants.
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Old 04-19-2007, 08:58 PM   #35
 
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you seem very knowledgable about planted tanks so i have a question you might have experience with. In our planted tank we have 2.6 wpg, diy co2 and quite a few fish. we are kinda recovering from a bit of an algea outburst (a bit of spot and maybe fuzz) our nitrates stay at about 20 usually and we try to keep our phosphates at 1-2. we just found a source of potassium that will do for now. we got a jar of potassium nitrate. Ok, that's just whats going on in our tank. The question is we have a cryptocoryne wendtii and some of the top leaves are turning a bit black. I'm sure this is a sign of something but i don't know what. we add ferts with trace elements like iron magnesium, etc. our lights are on for 9 hours a day (we have a timer). do u think maybe this is to long of a light period? our other plants seem to be doing ok, though one of our plants Alternanthera reineckii has turned completley red instead of red on bottom and green on top of leaves. That i read is from high light. Anyway, if you have any suggestion i'ld be grateful. we're trying to do all we can for our plants.
Well, to start at the beginning, how big is the tank? I usually don't recommend DIY CO2 for tanks over 30G-40G, as you really need lots of bottles to do the job, and you have a higher risk of fluctuating CO2 levels. But other than that, at 2.6w/g, you definitely need the CO2.

As for the blackening of the leaves, you have 2 possibilities. One is not enough nutrients at the roots. The other is too high Phosphates. High Phosphates cause the production of the Iron Phosphate which causes the leaves to turn Black or Brown and to die. In addition if there is an excess of Nitrates your tank will experience an Algae bloom. And there is also the possibility of Potassium deficiency causing it too, but there's not a lot of documentation on that. As for the Potassium, I wouldn't use the Potassium Nitrate. I prefer Potassium Sulfate. Potassium Nitrate does add Potassium, not to the recommended levels by itself. If you did, then you would be overdoing the Nitrates portion. But if it were me, I would start at the roots, and add root tabs. That may be all you need.

As for light time, you are fine. For your lighting, I would keep it between 8-10 hours. If longer, you may need to make dosing adjustments. I would keep it the same.

If you have any more questions, feel free to ask. I'll try to get them as soon as I can, but starting this Sunday, I'll be on my vacation and will be out of state til Thursday. So if any questions are asked, they may not get answered til I get back, as I'll have limited internet access while I'm gone. So if I don't respond, I'm not ignoring you, lol.
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Old 04-23-2007, 01:17 PM   #36
 
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thanks for the info. :D we're in the process of getting some potassium sulfate.kind of hard to find around here. we're going to order some from a person online tat sells it. o and the tank is 30g.
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Old 04-27-2007, 06:34 PM   #37
 
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New pics of my 29G before I start clearing up the mess, lol.





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Old 04-28-2007, 12:00 PM   #38
 
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Well, I just got done cleaning half the tank. I'm not making the same mistake I made a while back when I cleaned my 75G, and lost several fish due to doing too much at once. Since I had so much plants, I really didn't have much of a biofilter, and when I severely changed the number of plants, I had a major spike in water parameters. But anyways, here's a couple pics. Once I do the left side of the tank, I'm replanting a baby sword, as well as maybe 1 or 2 crypts. The rest of the crypts are being moved to my 55G.





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Old 04-28-2007, 01:29 PM   #39
 
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That's quite a difference, looking good! How long did it take you to do?
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Old 04-28-2007, 02:30 PM   #40
 
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It only took about 6 hours for the one tank, and another 4 for my 10G.

And here's updated pics of my 10G. It was so full that the plants were stuck to the florescent bulbs. Took me a long time to get the bulbs clean, as the plants were caked onto the bulbs.



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