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Love that New Tank Feeling: The Loach Motel
Old 11-19-2006, 01:54 PM   #21
 
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Correction: the plants won't use the ammonia, they will use the nitrate... which is ammonia after the bacteria has broken it down to its final stage.
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Old 11-19-2006, 02:04 PM   #22
 
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I would have to argue that one but it is true in some instances and not in others. I have seen experiemtns that some plants do actually prefer NH4 instead of NO3. The main ones being the broak leaf and the heavy root feeders. Stem plants hate ammonia and will use the NO3 faster. I don't which plants for certain but I know I have seen this somewhere.

That is why the ammonia levels are higher in the morning because the plants aren't using it at night.

It alos makes sense to me because when I cycled my last tank, first time i tried fishless, the ammonia I added every day disappeared almost instantly in a heavy planted tank. I could put 2ppm in the tank and it was gone in 4 hours where my nitrates were off the scale. The tnak was only cycled for 2 weeks at the time and I started from scratch, no seasoned anything.

I think The Tom Barr Report has something on this and this is also why they recommend to go with heavy planted tanks so they eat the ammonia if you are doing a cycle with fish. They also recommend double water changes because of the high nitrates as a result.

Now I could be totally wrong, wouldn't be the first time. But I will confirm this if I can with the website.
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Old 11-19-2006, 02:16 PM   #23
 
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I stand corrected, what I should have said is that "some" plants will prefer and use primarily nitrate, but in the case of any plant, if ammonia is too high, it can kill the plants as well as the fish. Some plants are much more sensitive to ammonia than others, but this is true for fish, too... some can "tolerate" small amounts... others can't handle any at all.
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Old 11-19-2006, 02:26 PM   #24
 
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I knew it was something about it that caused the readings to be off and possibly not safe for fish. Glad my memory hasn't completely left me at my old age of 34.
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Old 11-19-2006, 09:33 PM   #25
 
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Today, I revamped my 55 in the livingroom - rearranged the plants, pulled some of the rockwork.

Since the 8 loaches are going to be chillin in the 20 gallon a while longer, I stacked them up some caves. While I was doing this, one of my neatest fish experiences happened.

One of my dojos came up and nuzzled my hand as I was placing some slate. So I went and got a cube of tubifex and he nibbled it right out of my hand.

I've never had a fish do that before. It's like they were pets or something. ;) And I never used to like dojos either. Guess I will be revising that opinion.

Seriously cool. Little critter went sliding round my fingers like a baby kitten.
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Old 11-20-2006, 11:20 AM   #26
 
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One of my dojos came up and nuzzled my hand as I was placing some slate. So I went and got a cube of tubifex and he nibbled it right out of my hand.

that's awesome.

I had a Red-Tailed Black Shark that used to do the same thing with spinich leaves. He used to let me pet him and everything. I loved that fish.

I had to get rid of him when I moved from Chicago to Portland because I didn't have the resources to move my tanks that far.

So, I gave my setup to my dr. buddy who was starting his own practice and there he is, as happy as a clam, or RTBS. He doesn't let anyone touch him anymore though. I think he's mad at me, lol.
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Old 11-26-2006, 01:02 PM   #27
 
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that's neat! :D
nice looking tank man :)
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Old 11-26-2006, 04:12 PM   #28
 
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le Cicle c'est fini!

w00T

Ammonia is solid zero. Nitrite solid zero. Nitrate 20 - 40. PH 7.0. Temp 80º.

I am going to put the dojos in tonight.

Yee-Haw!!!!
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Old 11-28-2006, 08:17 PM   #29
 
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Well the bubblers are running, and the Dojos, the Sand Loach, and the 6 Male guppies are in the tank (I put the females in the 20 gallon). Things are growing in nicely, so I took some pix:

With Flash:


Without:


Tighter flash shot:

That's the sand loach in the bottom right, mid barrel roll.

I am going to do another round of tests this Sunday, and if all is still well, I'll move another couple over.
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Old 11-28-2006, 09:08 PM   #30
 
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Nice tank, Tophat.
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