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Love that New Tank Feeling: The Loach Motel

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Love that New Tank Feeling: The Loach Motel
Old 11-17-2006, 10:37 PM   #11
 
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('S Odd; First time I try to reply to a thread here, I get kicked to the top of the fora. )

Well, it was Small Tank Maintenance Night , so I got more more plants (cuttings and plants that were't doing well) to add to the loach motel.

Starting to fill in a bit on the right:

Snapped this after the first light had gone off and minuted before the second shut down for the evening, so it's dimmer and pinker than the other pix.

There was a big ol' Crypt I was sold as a "Tropica Sword" when I was inexperienced and stupid that was so coated in snail eggs that I figured it was time to yank it. I divided it into about 6 plants. Added another stem of wisteria (more of that tomorrow when I do the 55 in the living room), and bulked up the Hygro and Cabomba. Also pulled an Ozelot Sword out of one of the tanks. The way it was positioned it wasn't getting anywhere near enough light, and it too was snail city. That's right in front of the big filter intake.

Added a dozen 3/4" guppy fry and another 2 dozen or more pond snails to help cycle. Suppose I ought to do tests. Well, tomorrow is Big Tank Maintenance day...
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Old 11-17-2006, 10:39 PM   #12
 
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Your loaches should be able to eat the snails and snail eggs.:)
Stunning tank.
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Old 11-17-2006, 10:48 PM   #13
 
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Thank, Blue. :D
All my loach shaped loaches love them some snails - they go cuckoo when I drop a dozen in the holding tank - my lizard and worm shaped loaches, not so much.
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Old 11-17-2006, 10:51 PM   #14
 
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Thank, Blue. :D
All my loach shaped loaches love them some snails - they go cuckoo when I drop a dozen in the holding tank - my lizard and worm shaped loaches, not so much.
Worm-shaped would be kuhlis and weather loaches. Do you have kuhlis in there? Would be nice.
Lizard? Which one? The striatas and yoyos?
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Old 11-17-2006, 11:11 PM   #15
 
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In this tank, there will be two Weather loaches. The Sand Loach is sort of Lizard Shaped, sort of goby shaped. Neat little critter. No Kuhlis, not in this tank.
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Old 11-18-2006, 10:34 PM   #16
 
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Did the full battery of tests tonight:
Ammonia: 0+ (just the tiniest bit greener than yellow. Not nearly so green as the .25 ppm strip - the first one after 0)
Nitrite: 0+ (again, just a hair darker than the 0, much lighter than the .25)
Nitrate: Could be 40, could be 80 - to my eye, the test strip is identical.
pH: 7.4 (need to chuck a little peat in the filter)
kH: 2
gH: 14

It's only been running a week, but the biowheel on the Penguin 3 is from an established tank (it spent the night in a ziploc of aquarium water, but it was running the next day), and some of the bottom layer of gravel is also from an established tank. I think this might could be cycled.

I'll test it again tomorrow, and if I get the same readings, I'm going to pop the striatas and the yoyo over.

Added some more Bacopa to the right side. Starting to get some balance.
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Old 11-19-2006, 12:28 AM   #17
 
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Nitrates are a little high, if the test is accurate. It is hard to get accurate readings even for the best of us. I had to calibarte my test twice before I could get accurate readings.

I can NOT recommend putting any delicate fish in until you are sure the CYCLE is OVER! It can be slow but it can happen even if you have plants in there. I cycle with plants now and won't add fish for at least 3 week or until I see 0 Ammonia and nitrates, not even a trace. The plants will use it some but it still can be deadly to your fish. My normal cycle is 2 months even with plants. I don't even test until week 6 with a fishless cycle with seasoned filter, gravel and plants.

Try this, maybe it will help to determine if things are cool or not. If you can, test your tanks 2 hours before any light hits them in the morning. This will be a better indicator of if you have low enough ammonia levels to be safe to add fish. With your nitrates being so high, I would guess the plants are using a lot of ammonia instead of nitrates and the levels could be dangerously high.

GH is high, I thought my tanks were the only ones that got that high. No biggy, just make sure to add a little Mg or Ca to your water right after the water change or put it into the water before adding it. I have been told GH shock can be as bad as pH shock.
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Old 11-19-2006, 04:46 AM   #18
 
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AWESOME TANK!!!
Blue, while I know how much you love the kuhlis, that wouldn't be a safe place for them. The sand loaches and weather loaches would try to eat them eventually, as those guys can get to be a good size, and tend to be more aggressive than what a kuhli can handle.
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Old 11-19-2006, 11:47 AM   #19
 
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Thank you 'baby!

F4A - while this isn't a fishless cycle (a dozen small guppies and several dozen pond snails are in the tank), I do hear and heed you.

Today's measurements - Ammonia: Solid .25 ppm, Nitrite: trace, Nitrate: Still ureadable, but definitely over 40.

Going to wait a week and check again. Grumble. Gripe.
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Old 11-19-2006, 02:30 PM   #20
 
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Sorry tophat, but I saw one on my other forum that had massive amounts of plants during a cycle and tested during the day and was getting 0 ammonnia, when he tested first thing in the morning it was over 2. Was too late for some guppies and neons. I just hate to lose such beautiful fish like your loaches, especially at the cost and how difficult they can be to get sometimes. Their tank was a month old but they also didn't know to do water changes and general maintenance. You have a good grasp on it and it won't be long before you can get that beauty of a tank reving with activity.

Just want to make sure of one other thing. The loaches will be a little larger and produce a little more waste but with the plants you have, the extra ammonia should be used by the plants until the bacteria get caught up. Just make sure to keep up with the water changes if your nitrates spike because the plants aren't using them up fast enough, The wisteria should really knock them down but better safe than sorry.

Have you tried to calibrate you NO3 test?
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