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Old 01-10-2009, 08:36 PM   #41
 
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lupe i always knew you liked inverts but i dont konw if this question was asked/answered
do you sell and/or trade specimens?
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Old 01-11-2009, 12:16 AM   #42
 
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lupe i always knew you liked inverts but i dont konw if this question was asked/answered
do you sell and/or trade specimens?
This is disturbing me. I realized I can accommodate only about 300 adult Pomacea diffusa and about 15 Pomacea canaliculata in the end but most hobbyists here regard snails above their standards as evident by the reaction of my family since the invasion of the foreign P. canaliculata.

Trouble is I don't think anyone is that willing to give up his spare time to research thoroughly, listen carefully or will his time for the snails. The P. diffusa are very rare and valuable in my country as perhaps only less than ten of us actually owned them since they are too closely related to the canas to be considered pets and far less threatening not liking plants on their diet but you find stubborn warts who think otherwise.

I posted my pics in the local forums. Though it hasn't gathered much attention as fish normally would, some people who posted got their interests somehow sparked and asked plenty of questions about these snails. I think they may eventually be the ones who will buy or trade some of my snails, that is once I am convinced they can take care of the snails well, the same way the previous owner of my adult snails did. She didn't waste time questioning me about how I plan to keep the snails as I submitted in my email and text messages to her everything I learned about these critters. Since then, she has been willing to give me egg clutches to cope with her population as I have more accommodations here than she does due to her limited time.

If anyone in my area doesn't want the snails anymore, then I am always willing to get them back. Since having these snails including nerites and many others, I have a soft heart even for the MTS and pond snails. The only snails I give to my loaches though for their diet is the canas. The canas proliferate faster than my MTS and pond snails. I could have crushed their eggs to quell their number but I rather think the added meat can be beneficial to my loaches.
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Old 01-11-2009, 01:09 AM   #43
 
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thats interesting that not many want them locally
i thought you worked at a LFS, they arnt interested in them? even if you dont im sure you can sell some to them
were you the one that had the predator snails that eat other snails or was that someone else?
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Old 01-11-2009, 01:49 AM   #44
 
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thats interesting that not many want them locally
i thought you worked at a LFS, they arnt interested in them? even if you dont im sure you can sell some to them
were you the one that had the predator snails that eat other snails or was that someone else?
I don't work for the LFS but I do assist them whenever they want me to help them. I don't however trust them to retail the snails. It just comes down to trust because like I said, to them, snails are simply scavengers. I don't want to hear of possible snail abuse. I've seen many fish that are ridiculously thin to even be worth the price they are.

I asked one employee in one of the LFS what they were feeding the lone Clithon corona for weeks since I forgot to buy that last one as it was hidden in the sponge filter. He was awkward and I felt the tense. He refused to admit they don't seem to feed the snail. The snail honestly will refuse any food other than algae anyway as it basically is an algae eater more than anything else. They already ordered these nerites without even researching what these really need. I bought everyone but that loner (having missed that one) quickly as I knew if others may buy them on impulse, they won't stand a chance to live for a long time. People rely on snails and plecos to clean off the algae but what happens when the algae supply is gone? They just leave them to scavenge for leftover foods.

Yes, I'm one with the predatory canas but it could have been my fault as I did not entrust anyone to feed them while on my 7-day leave. My theory is simply they turned to their smaller siblings for foods as they are used to being pampered being fed with calcium pills, plaster of Paris pucks, veggies, plants, fish foods and everything else minus the meat which I don't as these increase their cannibalistic tendencies.
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Old 01-11-2009, 01:59 AM   #45
 
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thats funny, buy every snail so no one kills one.

i must say its a passion. its def. a passion lol
and i for sure hear you on the pleco/snail thing about cleaning peoples tanks. its like they'd rather risk livestock then to invest in a $10 mag-float that every other day zooming it around on the glass keeps it crystal.

your avatar everytime i see it reminds me of a nassarious i have in my saltwater tank.
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Old 01-11-2009, 02:14 AM   #46
 
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thats funny, buy every snail so no one kills one.

i must say its a passion. its def. a passion lol
and i for sure hear you on the pleco/snail thing about cleaning peoples tanks. its like they'd rather risk livestock then to invest in a $10 mag-float that every other day zooming it around on the glass keeps it crystal.

your avatar everytime i see it reminds me of a nassarious i have in my saltwater tank.
It's more of obsession. I just can't shake off the funny feeling they might be abused so I try to grab each snail I can find with the exception of the pond snails, MTS and ramshorns obviously. They're hard as nails compared to the nerites, diffusas and many others prone to abuse.

What saltwater snails do you have? I remember keeping ceriths and margaritas before but the latter didn't survive due to my tropical environment. I'll be glad to go back to SW one day if I can find some turbo snails and ceriths once again. I need to read the laws again for collection of snails from beaches as the Bureau of Fisheries and Agriculture put SW snails under their protection rather than the FW and BW such as the Neritina waigiensis. The conch and cowries are definitely out as they're protected. Heck, I can't accommodate them well anyway even if collection is legal which definitely isn't.
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Old 01-11-2009, 02:19 AM   #47
 
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nassarious, ceriths, astrea turbos, a mexican turbo, conch and stomatallas.

stomatallas and nassarious are my favorite
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Old 01-11-2009, 02:21 AM   #48
 
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Nice collection! Ever thought of adding Vitta usnea in your tank to eat the algae? They're fine in reef setups except they aren't even found in reefs. They're one of the nerite species that can do well in FW, BW and SW.
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Old 01-11-2009, 02:43 AM   #49
 
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thanks ill have to look into that, ive been looking for nerites but havnt came across any. my local reefing club's febuary group buy is inverts so ill be picking up more snails then anyways as im in the process of upgrading my tank now. idk if it will be the species you mention but hopefully i can get ahold of some kind of nerites to add to the collection
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Old 01-11-2009, 04:40 PM   #50
 
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strangely enough i caught this guy out and about today, usually he is hidden.

the foot of one of my species of nassarious



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