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Pomacea bridgesii
Have 10 colors of these. Originally, the previous owner gave me gold, ivory, blue and purples but she must have been in a hurry that I got a few more colors including black, jade, chestnut and burgundy.

Here's a bunch of them eating snail jello.


A few individual pics..






My brig clutch has resulted in several purples, burgundy and golds. The purples are light striped.


Pomacea canaliculata
Here's the mom who laid four clutches so far. I've raised her for 8 months already and is 2.5 inches in size currently.






Babies are clinging on her. Fie are about to go to be traded with more brig clutches possibly.;-) I have over 300 babies anyway.:roll:



Clithon corona
Not the bumblebee morph...I have 10 of these and are well fed with plenty of algae that I cultured.



Just for a bonus, here are some of my loaches. I have 6 more species with no pics at the moment.
Yasuhikotakia modesta, nastiest loach there is. Have 9 of these. Ignore the yellow color. My river setup is very heavy from tannins so I had to use flash.






New Arrivals
Not yet. I'm expecting Sulawesi snails (Tylomelania sp.) by the time I come back from my vacation on December 21. Stay tuned.8) I've ordered Asolene spixi, Anentome helena and Marisa cornuarietis but I don't know really if they are available but I'm hopeful.

I'm currently on the search for more native nerites and then the endangered Pila conica which is to believed to be extinct now after overpoaching and the introduction of canas have displaced them but I have refused to give up trying. Our local biologists are just plainly ignorant of the existence of the gastropods, sad to say.
 
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#2 ·
Here's an egg clutch of Pomacea canaliculata that hatched.


Male copulating with the female.
 
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#7 ·
Modestas are naturally bad tempered.lol So are skunks and tigers (Syncrossus sp.).
 
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It seems the name Pomacea bridgesii has been changed by Ken Hayes to Pomacea diffusa.

Here's the pic of a dark foot-blue diffusa.
 
#10 ·
I'll get a tank pic once I get back from vacation. It's only large driftwoods and smooth large rocks in there.;-)
 
#15 ·
Neat Lupin!

Your snails and loaches are very nice ;) It's always cool to see something different. Do all snails require hard water?
 
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All snails require water with a pH above 7.0 or their shells will start to erode. About the hardness: I think a fully grown snail would do alright in soft water, especially if his diet was supplemented with calcium. Young growing snails would benefit most from being in harder water. I've noticed that snails I've had that grew up in hard water had much thicker, stronger shells than ones in soft water.
 
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Definitely.

I just came back from a vacation and I'm down to about 60 canas, all babies are pea sized and the adults remained unfazed as usual. About 300 babies disappeared. I refused to trust anyone to feed the snails while I was away so my theory is the babies were eaten by their older siblings. This has happened with canas according to a few reports in www.applesnail.net. They tend to be cannibalistic when driven to starvation for a few days. I left a few plants for them to eat but that ws not enough.

As for the Pomacea diffusa, they mowed down my lotus. Again, the lotus must have wilted as I left the tank with no light for a week so the diffusas will naturally try to take the opportunity to eat what is available. The babies are now pea sized as well. That was a shocking growth spurt.:shock: So far, I have gold, jade, chestnut, ivory, burgundy, dark striped purple, dark solid purple and light striped purple. I also went home with 3 egg clutches, one hatched while on travel and the resulting babies are mostly purples, golds and then a few ivories. The other two clutches are about to hatch, hopefully by Christmas day. I traded them for my 5 baby canas.;-) The snail lady wanted the canas so badly. I'm assured they're in good hands though. I tend to reject anyone wanting snails and not researching thoroughly. I prefer my snails go to those who can pamper them.
 
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Lainey, some of my pea sized diffusas are dark footed chestnuts and purples.:lol:
 
#18 ·
Neat pics Lupin. Your snails look in great shape.

How big do the Modesta loaches get?
 
#19 ·
Neat pics Lupin. Your snails look in great shape.

How big do the Modesta loaches get?
8 inches. My biggest is 4.5 inches. They seem to grow so slowly though. I believe my tiger and arulius barbs have spawned a few times already judging by their coloration and behavior. I never really pay attention to the river tank. It's loaded with tannins and I do weekly water changes. Other than that, I leave them on their own accord and they click madly when they sense feeding time.:lol:
 
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Time for baby update.
My sister was playing around with her camera so she got some pics of my baby Pomacea diffusa. Here they are.


Purple diffusa roaming around looking for food. It's from the first clutch. It seems all my clutches yielded more purples than anything else. I do have ivory, burgundy, jade, chestnut, blue and a few others but some are seldom around in sight.





Here's a baby chestnut. It kept circling a pair of leaves of the Egeria densa, probably confused where it should go. It never attempted to 'parasnail' all the time it happened.lol





Chestnut finishing off the algae together with the Clithon corona and a few adult diffusas.





Another chestnut. My sister tried to take pics of its eyes as close as she could.



A few babies crawling around a rock. There are several of them but most spend too much time slacking off on plant leaves, driftwoods and at the back where there is too many plants.




Baby Pomacea canaliculata. They're two weeks old. I have several others who are three weeks old already and growing rather quickly.

 
#25 ·
The egg color varies with different species of apple snails. Diffusas lay peachy colored eggs which exhibit an almost moldy appearance with blue spots indicating they will hatch anytime soon. I still have several eggs still hatching.:lol: The ones you saw are of the canas. They turn white when they hatch soon.
 
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I'm still deciding at the moment. I want some to go but I really want to make sure the new owners are responsible so if they want the snails badly, I'll force them the caresheet before they get the snails. I don't want to hear from them the snails are treated badly. On the other hand, I prefer them to stay with me so I'll be assured they live a comfortable life until death. I have over 200 of them here. I can accommodate them but the next generation, I probably won't be able to anymore.
 
#29 ·
Yep. They'll be reproducing clutches of eggs again when they get the urge to do it.

You're in Massachusetts. Are you interested in snails? I know of a few people who can sell them for you or make trades with you within the state if you like? I'd love to ship you some of mine but considering I live in Asia, it'll be very costly.lol
 
#31 ·
nice, I had 2 golden mystery apple snails and they breed and I had hundreds of babys and finally when I got rid of the babys I stopped with snails. Because my tank looked ugly with hundreds of little specs
 
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To each, his own.;-) I personally like my tank riddled with plenty of these diffusas considering I have over 12 colors available.:lol:
 
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Some of my Pomacea diffusa.






Pomacea canaliculata.
 
#39 ·
I decided the new tank I bought last Friday will house the dark footed ones. I already have four tanks dedicated just for snails with guppies added just to swat off the mosquitoes and still waiting for four more tanks just for snails and another one for my white roundtail betta.:lol:
 
#40 ·
Wow , what great pictures!
I didn't realize how beautiful snails are.
 
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This is disturbing me. I realized I can accommodate only about 300 adult Pomacea diffusa and about 15 Pomacea canaliculata in the end but most hobbyists here regard snails above their standards as evident by the reaction of my family since the invasion of the foreign P. canaliculata.

Trouble is I don't think anyone is that willing to give up his spare time to research thoroughly, listen carefully or will his time for the snails. The P. diffusa are very rare and valuable in my country as perhaps only less than ten of us actually owned them since they are too closely related to the canas to be considered pets and far less threatening not liking plants on their diet but you find stubborn warts who think otherwise.:roll:

I posted my pics in the local forums. Though it hasn't gathered much attention as fish normally would, some people who posted got their interests somehow sparked and asked plenty of questions about these snails. I think they may eventually be the ones who will buy or trade some of my snails, that is once I am convinced they can take care of the snails well, the same way the previous owner of my adult snails did. She didn't waste time questioning me about how I plan to keep the snails as I submitted in my email and text messages to her everything I learned about these critters.:wink: Since then, she has been willing to give me egg clutches to cope with her population as I have more accommodations here than she does due to her limited time.

If anyone in my area doesn't want the snails anymore, then I am always willing to get them back. Since having these snails including nerites and many others, I have a soft heart even for the MTS and pond snails.:roll: The only snails I give to my loaches though for their diet is the canas. The canas proliferate faster than my MTS and pond snails. I could have crushed their eggs to quell their number but I rather think the added meat can be beneficial to my loaches.
 
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I don't work for the LFS but I do assist them whenever they want me to help them. I don't however trust them to retail the snails. It just comes down to trust because like I said, to them, snails are simply scavengers. I don't want to hear of possible snail abuse. I've seen many fish that are ridiculously thin to even be worth the price they are.

I asked one employee in one of the LFS what they were feeding the lone Clithon corona for weeks since I forgot to buy that last one as it was hidden in the sponge filter. He was awkward and I felt the tense. He refused to admit they don't seem to feed the snail. The snail honestly will refuse any food other than algae anyway as it basically is an algae eater more than anything else. They already ordered these nerites without even researching what these really need. I bought everyone but that loner (having missed that one) quickly as I knew if others may buy them on impulse, they won't stand a chance to live for a long time. People rely on snails and plecos to clean off the algae but what happens when the algae supply is gone? They just leave them to scavenge for leftover foods.

Yes, I'm one with the predatory canas but it could have been my fault as I did not entrust anyone to feed them while on my 7-day leave. My theory is simply they turned to their smaller siblings for foods as they are used to being pampered being fed with calcium pills, plaster of Paris pucks, veggies, plants, fish foods and everything else minus the meat which I don't as these increase their cannibalistic tendencies.
 
#45 ·
thats funny, buy every snail so no one kills one.

i must say its a passion. its def. a passion lol
and i for sure hear you on the pleco/snail thing about cleaning peoples tanks. its like they'd rather risk livestock then to invest in a $10 mag-float that every other day zooming it around on the glass keeps it crystal.

your avatar everytime i see it reminds me of a nassarious i have in my saltwater tank.
 
#46 ·
thats funny, buy every snail so no one kills one.

i must say its a passion. its def. a passion lol
and i for sure hear you on the pleco/snail thing about cleaning peoples tanks. its like they'd rather risk livestock then to invest in a $10 mag-float that every other day zooming it around on the glass keeps it crystal.

your avatar everytime i see it reminds me of a nassarious i have in my saltwater tank.
It's more of obsession.:? I just can't shake off the funny feeling they might be abused so I try to grab each snail I can find with the exception of the pond snails, MTS and ramshorns obviously. They're hard as nails compared to the nerites, diffusas and many others prone to abuse.

What saltwater snails do you have? I remember keeping ceriths and margaritas before but the latter didn't survive due to my tropical environment. I'll be glad to go back to SW one day if I can find some turbo snails and ceriths once again. I need to read the laws again for collection of snails from beaches as the Bureau of Fisheries and Agriculture put SW snails under their protection rather than the FW and BW such as the Neritina waigiensis. The conch and cowries are definitely out as they're protected. Heck, I can't accommodate them well anyway even if collection is legal which definitely isn't.:roll:
 
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