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post #141 of 266 Old 01-29-2014, 11:29 PM Thread Starter
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Sorry that I haven't posted test results I didn't have a chance pretty much everything stills the same except for ph it went low to a 6.4 I don't know if it affects but as I mentioned before I always test water before lights go off but yesterday and today couldn't make it before lights go off (I've been working late) I don't know if that affects test results? ( I think I read something like that in here not sure)

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post #142 of 266 Old 01-30-2014, 07:07 AM
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It only has that affect in heavily planted tanks, as far as I know. In your case it should make little difference when you test.
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Sorry that I haven't posted test results I didn't have a chance pretty much everything stills the same except for ph it went low to a 6.4 I don't know if it affects but as I mentioned before I always test water before lights go off but yesterday and today couldn't make it before lights go off (I've been working late) I don't know if that affects test results? ( I think I read something like that in here not sure)
As stated above it is due to plant action which can be even barely visable algae.

As the plant life lowers co2 ph rises.

My reason for measuring just before lights out is that if the plants are making the tank a net consumer of co2 and producer of oxygen, then the pH just before lights out will be high reflecting that. KH will limit the nightly pH drop but IMHO what is most important is to consume the co2.

With a ph that low at anytime however you do have high co2 levels at least compared to my tanks.

But your tank could be healthy also. People tell my my tanks are kinds the exception with very high pH values.

All of which is just my .02
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maintain Fw and marine system with a strong emphasis on balanced, stabilized system that as much as possible are self substaning.

have maintained FW systems for up to 9 years with descendants from original fish and marine aquariums for up to 8 years.

With no water changes, untreated tap water, inexpensive lighting by first starting the tank with live plants (FW) or macro algae( marine)

see: http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/a...-build-295530/
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post #144 of 266 Old 01-31-2014, 11:17 PM Thread Starter
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Hi guys sorry I didn't post test results yesterday

Ph:7.0
Ammonia .50ppm
Nitrite. 25ppm
Nitrate 5ppm

Today is water change day I did a 25% water change trying to not disturb substrate I need to re scape cambomba grows like crazy but I'll do it once is stable for now I just trim and replant very carefully I keep on adding prime I tested water before wc and it showed
Ph7.2
Ammonia 1.0 ppm
Nitrite .25ppm
Nitrate 5ppm

As an apology I'll share you pics of my 3 favorite plants from the tank
This is red root floater's little flower I love them
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This was brought by my girl she didn't asked for the name of it I know by people from the Betta fish forum it was hygrophila it looks like african green hygro
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And finally the floating leaves from my Lily 20140131_192245.jpg


Thank you for your help guys and I guess for now it's about patience
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post #145 of 266 Old 02-01-2014, 08:18 PM Thread Starter
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Hi guys a little update on today's water test

Ph 7.2
Ammonia 1.0 ppm I'm afraid of this
Nitrite. 50ppm
Nitrate 5ppm

Prime still being added inhabitants are fine tetras and rasboras schooling together weird but awesome they didn't do that before plants keep on growing like crazy specially cambomba and I'm still practicing my patience :)
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Hi guys a little update on today's water test

Ph 7.2
Ammonia 1.0 ppm I'm afraid of this
Nitrite. 50ppm
Nitrate 5ppm

Prime still being added inhabitants are fine tetras and rasboras schooling together weird but awesome they didn't do that before plants keep on growing like crazy specially cambomba and I'm still practicing my patience :)

Perhaps the Prime has locked up the ammonia.

at any rate sure sounds like you're coming along.

Now if you could just stop doing water changes and stop adding prime perhaps the ammonia would go down and pH up.

Still just my .02

maintain Fw and marine system with a strong emphasis on balanced, stabilized system that as much as possible are self substaning.

have maintained FW systems for up to 9 years with descendants from original fish and marine aquariums for up to 8 years.

With no water changes, untreated tap water, inexpensive lighting by first starting the tank with live plants (FW) or macro algae( marine)

see: http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/a...-build-295530/
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post #147 of 266 Old 02-02-2014, 10:02 AM
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And then again, perhaps the ammonia would go up and bring the pH down. Perhaps the pH will go up and increase the amount of dangerous free ammonia (NH3).

Mr. Bob, you have a nice setup which responds according to your input because you built it that way. Suggesting procedures which would work well in your tanks is not always the best way for more conventional keepers to proceed with theirs.
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post #148 of 266 Old 02-02-2014, 02:18 PM
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Thanks for the updates. . . pretty, pretty plants! ^__^

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. . .and I'm still practicing my patience :)
The number one rule of fish-keeping - and the one most often broken! Hang in there - it's gonna be worth the wait!
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post #149 of 266 Old 02-03-2014, 09:59 AM
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And then again, perhaps the ammonia would go up and bring the pH down. Perhaps the pH will go up and increase the amount of dangerous free ammonia (NH3).

Mr. Bob, you have a nice setup which responds according to your input because you built it that way. Suggesting procedures which would work well in your tanks is not always the best way for more conventional keepers to proceed with theirs.

His tank, by the pitcures, has duck weed, cabomba, numerous lillies and looks heavily planted to me.

therefore I think he would be well advised to consider the experience of people who have kept planted tanks.


still that's just my .02

maintain Fw and marine system with a strong emphasis on balanced, stabilized system that as much as possible are self substaning.

have maintained FW systems for up to 9 years with descendants from original fish and marine aquariums for up to 8 years.

With no water changes, untreated tap water, inexpensive lighting by first starting the tank with live plants (FW) or macro algae( marine)

see: http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/a...-build-295530/
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post #150 of 266 Old 02-03-2014, 10:22 AM
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Lol, Bob. . . you're not the only one who keeps planted tanks on this forum, just the only one who tells people NOT to do water changes!

Please lets not start another debate on poor Carlos' thread, the vast majority of fishkeepers the world over will tell him to keep the water clean, and be patient.

Keep up the good work, Carlos!

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