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post #421 of 930 Old 03-14-2013, 12:54 PM
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Heehee, you're just grumpy because you can't put 'em in right away! If you weren't so busy this afternoon, you'd have them opened so fast, you wouldn't have even noticed the crappy packaging job! ;) Where did you order from, by the way? I might have missed that part?
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post #422 of 930 Old 03-14-2013, 01:03 PM
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Yes succumb to the tiny fish allure! I like the combination. Once you have them though you're going to want more little fish. Just warning you. First it was the puffers. Then you thought the scarlet badis are pretty, but they don't need tank mates. Now you're thinking tank mates. It's a slippery, slippery (oh as we say in PA Dutch country slippy) slope and you're already well on your way.

I wanted to bet you that you'd get rockwool. I really did, but I think I forgot to reply to that PM. I wouldn't be annoyed by that since it's not that terrible. The no labeling sucks though for sure. Hopefully it won't be that bad for you to tell what is what, but some of those C. wendtii types just look so similar.
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post #423 of 930 Old 03-14-2013, 01:07 PM Thread Starter
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LoL Jes you might be a lil bite right!
I got them from Bobstropicalplants.com. The shipping was fast and had no problem there. As far as I know I got everything I ordered but I personally think they could have packaged the plants a lil better.

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lol, the allure of tiny fish. . . it's an addiction! BUT you get to keep sooooo many fish in such a small space! Can't go wrong with that.

I wasn't happy with Bob's when I ordered from them. Twice. But I've heard lots of good reviews otherwise, so maybe I just got in the way of someone's bad month. Either way, three cheers for new plants! :D **jealous**
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LoL Yeah BWG you were right about the rockwool. They didn't come in pots though lol.
I took them out of the bag and put them in some water in a bucket as a couple of leaves on the anubias coffeefolia looked to be drying out.

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Ok Question of the day.....
Crypts have big root systems as we all now. So usually you want about 2-3" of substrate for them. Well I have about 1" of sand.

Soo do y'all think I should make my substrate 2-3" before I add the crypts or leave it alone?

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post #427 of 930 Old 03-14-2013, 02:08 PM
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I would add substrate, if possible. . . or plant them so they aren't floating and add more ASAP. Just because you want to leave their roots alone as much as you possibly can to keep them thriving. . . I've had similar situations in QT tanks in the past, with not enough sand, and have done okay making little sand 'piles' for them - in corners and such, but that was a temporary fix. Those plants didn't melt, but didn't really start to thrive until they had a proper substrate to spread out in.
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Ok I was afraid you were going to say that. I knew you was but was still kinda hoping 1" or so might still be okay. LoL

Next question.
Can one simply add more substrate on top of the existng substrate and it be okay?? Would that not cause problems with bacteria that's already established in the sand?? In other words wouldn't that suffocate the bacteria and cause issues in water parameters??

Wouldn't it be better to take out the existing sand and then add new sand to the desire depth??
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Ok I was afraid you were going to say that. I knew you was but was still kinda hoping 1" or so might still be okay. LoL

Next question.
Can one simply add more substrate on top of the existng substrate and it be okay?? Would that not cause problems with bacteria that's already established in the sand?? In other words wouldn't that suffocate the bacteria and cause issues in water parameters??

Wouldn't it be better to take out the existing sand and then add new sand to the desire depth??
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Unless you are contemplating a significant increase in substrate, no to your question. Aerobic bacteria work in the upper layer of a substrate, and in sand this is about 1-2 inches [see my article on bacteria]. However, plant roots release oxygen--most of the oxygen produced through photosynthesis is released via the roots--and you also have factors like snails. On top of this, you want some anaerobic areas, and this is not likley to overload that.

If you have 1 inch now, I would add perhaps half an inch for the crypts.

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Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
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