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Old 05-20-2013, 10:04 AM   #801
 
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Thanks, Fox! The 10g QT tanks are always shifting and changing, depending on what's living there, and seeding has (unfortunately) left them with that awful salt-and-pepper sand (drives me crazy). Every other tank I have currently is being set up as a mini Becoming - I'm hoarding plants and sand, so that when I get the 125 set up, I can just dump them all in together, save any cycling worry, and avoid a huge all-at-once expense for plants and substrate.



Jen, look inside your heart. The answer you seek is already there *ish cryptic*

C'mon, girl. GUESS! You have a 99% chance of being right, from my point of view. . .

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Old 05-20-2013, 10:37 AM   #802
 
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Is it... Baby rams?
Or is it loaches? But I don't know what I'd do if you bought 27 loaches, I remember you said the store keeps ordering more for you.
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Old 05-20-2013, 12:09 PM   #803
 
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THREE CHEERS FOR LYMPIE!!!! I KNEW you could guess!
*hands cookie*


I wish it were baby rams! But no, not this time. . . this time it's more of my OTHER favorite fish. Loaches FTW!



Dwarf loaches, Pangio cuneovirgata, to be specific. Again. . . lol. Told you it was nothing new.

This particular QT tank is well established, been running for over a year, and has now QT'd two groups these fish (9 live in Becoming, 10 were sent to live with said ferret). I figure. . . I love them, I'm not *positive* that I'll be able to find them again, so I might as well grab them while they're available. I DO have a 125g tank sitting in the basement. I have to put something in it. If all of the Cuneys in my house make it into that tank, I will have a GORGEOUS shoal of 33. . . it will be a thing of beauty!



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But I don't know what I'd do if you bought 27 loaches, I remember you said the store keeps ordering more for you.
Lympie, I'll tell you what you do. You SQUEEEEEE!!! Because you know how much I adore these babies, and they are SO. IMPOSSIBLY. CUTE!

They did order more - I didn't ask them to. They called me when they came in. I left them there for two months - most of which was spent in a heated debate with myself - before I caved and went to see if they were Cuneys. Obviously, they were. I couldn't resist. . . much thought went into this purchase.

Before y'all condemn me for keeping 27 fish in a 10g tank (The inch per gallon rule is bollox, even when mis-applied in reverse!!!) I'd like to point out that this is all your fault. SEVERAL of you came at me saying things like:

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Too many bottom dwellers in a tank? Uh, no such thing!
. . .over and over and over, in spite of my protests! You can't blame me for eventually believing you! So far, you're right. There aren't too many in there, honestly. I'm comfortable enough with this species, and my tank(s) now to be fully confident that they'll be okay - or y'all know I'd never have brought them home. Definitely not something I would have attempted a year ago. . .

*Uberparanoidfishkeeper reporting for duty*



Remember that these are nano fish - about 1 inch long at most, and as thin as. . . three? strands of spaghetti, also shoalers, and the digestive systems of eel-like loaches give them an amazingly low bioload. I've had them for almost a week now, and not one cycle wobble from that tank. Parameters are solid as they've always been, and the loachlings are settling in and losing their shyness amazingly quickly this time around. . . I'm sure this has a lot to do with their numbers. All of this makes me unbelieveably happy. . .

I tested the water in the bag when I brought them home, because I'm OCD and I do that. . . as was the case the other two times I got these fish from that wretched shop, nitrates and phosphates tested off the charts, and there was an ammonia reading of 0.25ppm. They've been in that shop, in a tank full of gravel, for two months - and they're still alive. Some of them are terribly thin, but alive. And SQUIRMY!

I think these little fish are happier with me than they possibly have ever been. . .

If I should run into trouble, I have a 29g, and the other 10g, both set up, planted, and fully cycled. I can split the shoal if it seems necessary - but I doubt it will be. I decided to put them into this tank, because from what I've seen from these fish in the past, they're far more comfortable within close proximity to each-other while adjusting to a new environment. I would have seen ammonia within the first few days if it was going to be a problem. And y'all know I test newly stocked tanks constantly. . . three cheers for OCD. . .

All is happy in Loachling land - and let me tell you, THEY'RE LOVING THAT TANK!!! I set it up just for them, and it's perfect! ^.^ 27 fish, and not a one visible? That equals loachy heaven. They're still settling in, I took that shot the first time I put the lights on a day or so after adding them - they were all hiding. But it didn't take them very long at all to squirm out to see what was going on. They fill up the tank, but have plenty of room - they're loachlings. You know how they do. . . and teeny tiny ones, at that! Feeding time is hilarious. I'll have to try to get a video at some point of all the squirmy goodness. . . very, very happy. I hope they all come through, fatten up, and make it safely into Becoming 3.0.

*LUFFS LOACHLINGS*

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Old 05-20-2013, 09:44 PM   #804
 
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I knew you had loaches, but it was driving me crazy not being able to see them or have a picture of their cute wittle whiskery faces! *pinches loach cheeks*

THREE CHEERS FOR LITTLE LOACHES!!!

Because with their arrival, it has officially begun...the dawn of a new era.
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Old 05-20-2013, 11:10 PM   #805
 
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!! (runs around like a crazy person!!) You are perhaps the luckiest person alive, Jes. You will have a tank of the cutest thing ever. Ever. I'm so happy they ended up with you!! <3

So... any thoughts into breeding those lovely little cunies?
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Old 05-20-2013, 11:11 PM   #806
 
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CHESH WHAT! BABY LOACHES! AHHHH!

Pictures! AHH! I wish I had more time to respond. I'm gonna take some more time later though but I love the pictures!

Your anubias is HUGE! I'm jealous lol.

So where did you end up putting all those plants?
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Old 05-20-2013, 11:13 PM   #807
 
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CHESH WHAT! BABY LOACHES! AHHHH!

Pictures! AHH! I wish I had more time to respond. I'm gonna take some more time later though but I love the pictures!

Your anubias is HUGE! I'm jealous lol.

So where did you end up putting all those plants?
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Old 05-21-2013, 06:41 AM   #808
 
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Squeeee! So many squigglies Loaches are just too darned adorable! Congratulations on your whopping twenty seven new additions! Can't wait for the 125 to be set up!
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Old 05-21-2013, 11:27 AM   #809
 
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Because with their arrival, it has officially begun...the dawn of a new era.
I know, right!!? I keep thinking the same thing!!! I just got fish. . . FOR the 125! (even if they're more of the same fish that are already in Becoming now, lol) I don't expect that these guys will ever see the inside of the 55. I sure don't intend to put them in there, at any rate (to do so would only require that I get them out again at some point - best to sidestep loach wrangling at all costs!) Plus. . . toooooo many plants to go back now. . . for better or worse, Becoming is (eventually) moving up!

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You will have a tank of the cutest thing ever. Ever.
IZZZY!!!! You ARE the cutest thing. Ever. Come live in my tank, too?
Funny that if I had started with a 125g tank, I may have ended up with big fish. . . but I'm still going for tiny loaches. Becoming is what she is, and I can't resist bitty squirmy cuteness. Really hoping to add Hovering Zebras (Yunnanilus cruciatus) to the loach pile before all is said and done, too. I hope they're still available when I get that far - those dudes are awesome!

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do people keep asking me this? Loaches don't breed in captivity! I have no idea. If they do, they do. . . I wouldn't even know where to start. Sure, they get all squirmy after water changes. All loaches do! I feed them well. . . that's about all I've got ^.^ Anyway, I already have 33 of them! Believe it or not, there IS a limit to how many bottom dwelling fish can be kept in a tank!!!

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CHESH WHAT! BABY LOACHES! AHHHH!
Glad you like my piccies, Term *GRINS*
I know you've been off and on lately, and people keep talking about breeding loaches *ahem* so to clarify - these aren't baby Pangio Kuhli, they're actually dwarf loaches - Pangio cuneovirgata. It started as a group of mislabeled Kuhli waaaaay back on page 24. I think we figured out what they actually were somewhere around page 34, and the first group was introduced into Becoming on page 47 (holy cow, we babble too much!). Check those pages if you want to get a better idea of the TINY size of these guys - they're so swoonworthy!!!


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MMMMPH! IN TAAAANNNNKKKKSSSSSS!!! The Guppy Grass has taken over a 5g tank all by itself - brittle, yes. It's a bit of a mess right now, but I'm sure it'll be okay :) Everything else was tossed in the 29, but I'm not convinced it will do well in there until 125g setup, so it's a temporary measure. . . there is a project underway for the D.Sag - and when the dust settles I'll get some pics up! Thank you SOOOO much! I can't believe HOW MANY PLANTS were in that tiny little box, lol. . . you're amazing! *hugs*

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Squeeee! So many squigglies Loaches are just too darned adorable! Congratulations on your whopping twenty seven new additions! Can't wait for the 125 to be set up!
THANK YOU SPOOKS!!! I am entirely too excited. . . I still have a lot to do, and a lot of saving up. . . and a lot of learning - before I get that far. I wish I could just set it up RIGHT NOW *ish impatient* Good things are worth waiting for, right? I keep trying to remind myself, but it's HARD!
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IZZZY!!!! You ARE the cutest thing. Ever. Come live in my tank, too?
Funny that if I had started with a 125g tank, I may have ended up with big fish. . . but I'm still going for tiny loaches. Becoming is what she is, and I can't resist bitty squirmy cuteness. Really hoping to add Hovering Zebras (Yunnanilus cruciatus) to the loach pile before all is said and done, too. I hope they're still available when I get that far - those dudes are awesome!
YES!! I will gladly put on a scuba suit and come live forever with those tiny little squirmies! And I've even clean the algae! I know most people think big tank has to equal big fish, but there is really something so majestic about huge shoals of tiny fish. There are some pretty fish that are large, but I don't think they can beat the beauty of a large shoal of small colorful fish.

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do people keep asking me this? Loaches don't breed in captivity! I have no idea. If they do, they do. . . I wouldn't even know where to start. Sure, they get all squirmy after water changes. All loaches do! I feed them well. . . that's about all I've got ^.^ Anyway, I already have 33 of them! Believe it or not, there IS a limit to how many bottom dwelling fish can be kept in a tank!!!
But.. loaches do breed in captivity. Jaysee has videos of his yoyos spawning in his 125. And I've read some articles about breeding Pangios. Sure you don't want to give it a try? ;) (and give the babies to us?)
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